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Rawknees and dead meat....

Dead meat forum as of late....yes I agree.

It occurs to me that the "new" group' of 930 posters are also new{ish} 930 owners.

So unfortunately for us old-timers {aka "limp meat"}, we have all heard the same set of questions time and time again, so it's become a little boring through repetition of topics.

Furthermore, and I know I'll get some heat over this, but it seems that the old-timers were a little more willing to try to fix the problem/figure out the problem/track down the info and such, then the new group of guys/girls are willing to do. They seem more into being handed the info/fix/experience rather than getting their hands dirty and figuring it out on their own. I garner a good portion of this opinion due to the responses of the newer members, saying things like "the shop I took it to", "the mechanic told me", "I was told that", etc., etc.

I have a very similar experience with the new group of Millennials that are in the work force these days. I am a senior quality control manager in the aerospace machining arena. When a machinist has an issue with a set-up or first article part, and I try to explain a solution, 9 times out of 10 the first thing they always say is "I didn't learn that in school, so I can't do it", hell they don't even try to think on their own!

Ok, ok I'm getting way off topic and just ranting to hear myself complaining, time to shut up.

Mark

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Yea, tell us about it.

What Pelican needs is a way to easily access and pass on the information that exists here.

A step in the right direction would be a new search feature, that uses Google perhaps. Or maybe assigning each thread some "key words" that could be easily searched.

As far as the hear-say goes, good luck with that.
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Well at least the 930 forum has some life in it...whether it's newbies or not....take a look at the 930 forum of Rennlist....dead!
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Yep Mark, just a couple of days ago this forum went over 24 hours without a single post. Really something to see. I post in here less frequently than I used to because a few of my partners in shiit slinging have all but disappeared, I guess (Paul - few and far between post, Kenik, etc.). Maybe I should go nutz flinging feces and see if I can recruit some new meat !?!?
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Alas..if my 930 deal closes on Monday-ish, I too will be relegated to the 944 turbo forum, and will be banished from the 930 forum.

Oh the humanity!

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It is plenty easy to search the forum. But then how do people make connections and friends and grow the community?? Share your experiences and what you learned, that is the whole basis of a forum such as this....

Do you want to just pass on archived information or do you want to help a fellow enthusiast? If we just want to make it easier for new folks to find old info, then we can easily build an archive and the forum will have ZERO traffic. Then what will you do with your spare time? Search a forum with zero new posts this month???
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I know all of you guys are willing to help anyone and walk them through a problem.I have not posted anything in a long while butt hoping to change that now that I have my 930 back.Its nice to see that most of the same crew is still hear.


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Old timers rule! I'm guilty of not posting much anymore as well and I'm completely on board with the Quacksters comments. Old farts learn by doing first, and if not then by asking questions. Nowadays people just seem to give up too easily.
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ROFL....

this is a big part of why I daily look at this forum. I enjoy the banter and the knowledge of those who have gone before me deep into 930-land.

although I try to search for some info, doing a tub up full restore and modifying an older 78 SC/930 conversion means doing a lot of non-standard stuff. it seems hard to 'ask the right question' when searching.

hope to not bore you too much with my posts.

but now need to get that 924S carcass dragged over to pull the motor to use the block to rebuild my 951 track car engine.

sigh... just always something to keep me away from the 930. but got my boxes of stuff from Shaun at Tru6, and need to ship another box of stuff to him.

don't give up on the rest of us Mark.

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I guess forums go through cycles just like everything else.
Not sure of the exact date but I started posting back in 1997. The forum was new and there were only about a dozen active posters. Within a few years the forum grew and just about every question had been asked. Instead of seeing conversation on a topic you got "do a search this has been discussed ad nauseum …" which really isn't that helpful. Now you see links to past threads which I think is better. The recession changed everything. The 930's changed hands from a more enthusiast oriented bunch to a more collector oriented owner. This is now softening though. The prices are coming back down and folks are starting to play with their 930's again. They don't do as much personal wrenching as the pre-recession owners did but the forum still has value, it helps the new owners see what they are getting into with specific repairs and if nothing else, how much it might cost them at the shop. Knowledgeable 930 mechanics and enthusiasts are dwindling, any info that saves time or points someone in the right direction is a big plus.
I'd like to see more guys post experiences with their 930, simple maintenance stuff and small tricks that make wrenching easier or faster. You might be surprised at what you think is mundane could be a huge help to someone.
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Yea, tell us about it.

What Pelican needs is a way to easily access and pass on the information that exists here.

A step in the right direction would be a new search feature, that uses Google perhaps. Or maybe assigning each thread some "key words" that could be easily searched.

As far as the hear-say goes, good luck with that.
You mean like the sticky threads at the top "my car won't start"?
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It is plenty easy to search the forum. But then how do people make connections and friends and grow the community?? Share your experiences and what you learned, that is the whole basis of a forum such as this....

Do you want to just pass on archived information or do you want to help a fellow enthusiast? If we just want to make it easier for new folks to find old info, then we can easily build an archive and the forum will have ZERO traffic. Then what will you do with your spare time? Search a forum with zero new posts this month???
That's an interesting question. I don't know how many of us travel, personally I'm a road warrior. Perhaps thread or a document with peoples handles and location might help fellow enthusiasts get together for a brewski. I've reached out to one or two folks via pm a few times, but unfortunately due to client dinners never been able to make it happen. I'd seriously prefer to quaff an ale in some dive bar with a fellow 930 enthusiast than struggle through yet another boring client dinner at Mastro's lol
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I was just talking to a fellow buddie also a pelican member about this last night on how I asked a question in the 911 tech forum on wiring connector help for fuel pump relays since the 930 forum is "dead" and I was looking for a quick response. Which I got :] Sending them off to Timmy2 here on pelican as he will recast the connectors new wires so I'll be all set for another road trip! I'll post up when I get them back and wired in.
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Who has time to wrench on their own car these days? We arenít all retired old farts like Ronnie!
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I have found the 930 forum to be very helpful, if suggesting life without boost just isn't worth living, I'm sure I will be filling the forum once I finish collecting parts and begin apply them to the SC.
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Who has time to wrench on their own car these days? We aren’t all retired old farts like Ronnie!
^^Ha! That knuckle drager fixes more stuff in a week than I do all year. Even at his geriatric age.


I'm new. I did both. I asked a few questions in my build thread and outside of it.
Some things I just read an existing thread five times and tried my own thing.
Like the ultimate ignition thread. Ended up with a programmable MSD and my own timing curve that works great.

As for the AC up-grade I was a little biotch and bothered Rawknees constantly. I paid for his time...
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Part of the problem seems to be that less and less people are willing to modify their cars to suit their tastes, but rather wish to backdate modified cars. And if they do modify their 930s, then it has to be something that can easily be changed back to original. 10 years ago the only home for a 3LDZ for instance, was a dumpster or maybe a coffee table. Nowadays the question keeps coming up about who can service them. Shaved raingutters, modified bodywork and the like are not to be contemplated, as this will make it near impossible to turn the cars back to concours original condition.
The meaning of the word enthusiast has changed somewhat, less and less HotRodder and more and more Restorer.
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I pretty much come here to see WTF Rawknees is jabbering about. I miss Cole. 16volts blogs and Tippy tinkering. Posting.... The last time I posted I got accused of being a Troll. I just observe and stay quiet. I do miss the C2Turbo.com days, but for now it's a daily visit just to see what's going on. Mark I agree with you on the new group.
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Every now and then I look up Cole930 just to read some of the mods he had done.I really did not know him but the guy really did some cool mods to his car and seemed to be a class act.

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this is still the BEST forum I have been on.
the number of HIGHLY intelligent guys here is VERY intimidating along with their experience.
not only that, them along with the guys that make a living doing this are very willing to share their knowledge.

go to a Mercedes forum and check it out. about the most they do is wash their car, if that.
I have been on forums like ones for HVAC and all they talk about is which unit is better and if someone has a REAL problem they tell you to call your local service guy.

I was on a BMW forum for E30's that was pretty good until they changed the actual program and how it looked and worked, but even then there was only a hand full of guys that new anything. nothing compared to here.

the 930 side IS different from the 911 side. a little more laid back. I did like that some people would post 930 stuff for sale over here since there is not always a lot going on. kind a makes it nice to weed through the other junk for sale.

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