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So many damn leaks- down the rabbit hole I go

Took the car out for a spring fling figuring the Covid-19 roads will be light and I could get a real thrashing in after a solid warmup and shakedown. Never happened... got about a mile away and had oil smoke pouring through my heater vents thanks to chronic engine leaks that make it to my heater boxes and through my frozen heater flappers. I’ve been denying that they need to be addressed but even that Egyptian river failed me this time and I resigned myself to dropping and getting into it. Of course, at 109k while it still has even compression I probably should inspect rings and mic up the pistons and cylinders. It’s no doubt time for valve guides & seals at a minimum. I bought the car with 58k with decent documentation and no known internal work.



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Dropping these engines is mentally harder than it is physically. It helps when my son is around due to the virus sent all the college kids home for the rest of the semester. But it’s still a precarious balancing and lowering operation, with lots of expensive things that gravity could easily have its way with. I’m glad it’s on the ground. Now I have to separate it and get the engine on a stand.
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Damn dude, you move quick. And I’m always too nervous to jack the rear end up high enough to get the engine out without bumper removal.

I have leakdown and compression testers I could’ve sent up to you to check those.
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Well done!! I'm also the victim of analysis paralysis.
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Those tie down hooks that always scrape first on bad driveways were touching the floor but I squeaked by without pulling the bumper. It IS nerve-racking for sure!

I put the car outside for ONE DAY and boom... snow in NY. Amazing
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nicley done there, Kenster!

got mine out the 1st time that way, building a basic 2x4 cradle was clutch

2nd time on time on my lift w/ neighbor's hydraulic table was FTW 8-)

love you've put 50k on 'er! Here's to 50more.

Dude, my 67k motor looked exactly like that - and - I suspect may have been at least part of it's demise. Don't think I realized how much oil I was burning off the headers and didn't check it enough, foolishly thinking my 13qt system was fiiiiiiine. Hindsight 8 /

Best of luck w/ the reseal! My cam tower leaked after - I rule tho, you got this 8 )

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roflmao @ the snowbit... dude, right? Can't make that up... love it heh heh
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ps - what's yer tag read?

pps - noice to see the Mach 1 thar... titz
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I used a motorcycle/ATV jack and its much more stable
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Is there a way to get the oil/oil residue out of heater boxes?
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Is there a way to get the oil/oil residue out of heater boxes?
Take it for a good thrash :-)
Yes - I finally got an ATV jack too. Makes a world of difference. Not expensive and stores away pretty good. Something to keep in mind for next time :-)
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Is there a way to get the oil/oil residue out of heater boxes?
Those are Brian's headers. The heat boxes screw together.
So yes he can just take them apart and clean them.
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We use pop rivets on the exchangers now, like that a lot better. When you put them back together use rivets.
Nice job attacking the leaks. Mine is beginning to suffer the same fait and I need to do this as well. Trouble is always time ...
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pps - noice to see the Mach 1 thar... titz
“FRAULIEN”. The proper spelling for an unmarried woman in German is Fraulein, but that was already taken in NY DMV land. My wife calls the car worse names than that. And the car hates her right back. **** just goes wrong when she’s in it.

“Lien” is actually somewhat apropos given what I’ve spent over the years. Lol
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“FRAULIEN”. The proper spelling for an unmarried woman in German is Fraulein, but that was already taken in NY DMV land. My wife calls the car worse names than that. And the car hates her right back. **** just goes wrong when she’s in it.

“Lien” is actually somewhat apropos given what I’ve spent over the years. Lol
lol I call my 930 the Schlampe Hausfrau
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lol I call my 930 the Schlampe Hausfrau
HaHa,
If you google that like I did. Make sure to turn the translator on before clicking any links...
I found the German Porn sites

Rawknee you probably have those sites bookmarked already.
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HaHa,
If you google that like I did. Make sure to turn the translator on before clicking any links...
I found the German Porn sites

Rawknee you probably have those sites bookmarked already.
That's funny, never thought of googling the phrase
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ugh.. I'm scared to look under mine.. Well done on getting after it!
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Who do "we" trust these days with looking over a 930 box? I don't even know if it needs anything but an honest inspection. I had Gary Fairbanks in CT go through this 8 years ago on the cheap just before he retired. I wish he was still around. His shop was a treasure-trove of air-cooled Porsche bits that only he could find anything in. Anyway, this box was usually touchy getting into first unless the car was stopped, and took a little more effort downshifting from 4th into 3rd (but only when it was up to temperature; cold it was fine). Both might have been clutch-adjustment related.
My transaxle:


Video of Gary's old shop. They don't make em like this anymore:

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