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3.3L turbo Pistons & Cylinders

Hey Guys...

I am currently rebuilding a 911 SC 3.0L engine (turbocharging it) and I'm looking for turbo pistons & cylinders. I have seen some on ebay with the following comment:

"note the shorter cylinder height, these can only be used in turbo applications"

What does this mean in terms of fitting onto my 3.0L engine?

Are the 3.3L turbo pistons & cylinders a direct fit (or do I have to offset the rod bushing etc.)?


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The 3.0 turbo p&c's should work from 76-77. They are extremely low compression due to no IC and CIS. The P&C's from a 3.3 will only work if your splitting the case during build up. The pin size and height are off for your crank.

Yes you can MAKE them work. Options I can think of off my head are:
1. Have offset bushings machined in your current rods (Supertec)
2. Custom Rods
3. 3.2 internals swapped in and get a 3.3

Budget, and desires are determining factor. They are NOT a "bolt on" to your short block as is.
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Mike:

Do you have Mahle or KS cylinders on your 3.0?
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Yes you can if you machine the rod bushing and have it offset yes Supertec can do this for you.
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911 sc engine 3.3 conversion

This is my 79 SC engine using the 3.3 pistons and cylinder setup using the Supertec rod bushing modification. I am using a 86 3.3 turbo intake with a Euro fuel distributor and the Supertec twinplug distributor conversion. K27 turbo and a 1080 CFM intercooler.

I wasn't out to build a monster engine or the fastest car, just looking to get a little extra horsepower to push my 2200 lb. 914 down the road a little quicker.
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Gentlemen...

Thank you very much for your comments.

Lukesportsman: I have the 10-fin KS cylinders. Guess that means I'm in the market for Nikasil cylinders?

mb911: How about those 3.3L p&c? How do I contact you to negotiate a sale?

Any idea what it costs to get the rods offset machined?


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Gentlemen...

Thank you very much for your comments.

Lukesportsman: I have the 10-fin KS cylinders. Guess that means I'm in the market for Nikasil cylinders?

mb911: How about those 3.3L p&c? How do I contact you to negotiate a sale?

Any idea what it costs to get the rods offset machined?


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