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Excellence 930 values

Looking at blk/blk <10K mile stock '89 930. Owner asking $66K. Can the Excellence market value somehow be extrapolated to such a car?
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Dunno. Certainly is a premium paid for a low mileage G50 5 speed 930s. Seems pretty high, what's it worth to you?
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Would you rather that than a low mileage 993 Twin turbo, cause your up at that price level. Me, no brainer on the side of the 993.
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Ive have been watching the market for about 8 months while i was looking for a 930 . It did spike pretty hard in the last few months. They say the 930s are gonna be the next hot auction cars.
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Ive have been watching the market for about 8 months while i was looking for a 930 . It did spike pretty hard in the last few months. They say the 930s are gonna be the next hot auction cars.
Agreed, especially if left in standard condition.
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For that much you're into 993TT or 996TT price. If the car's that nice, it might be better off in a museum or a car collection, seriously. If you're adding to a car collection, it would be nice, but I think it's at least $10K too high unless it's selling at BJ .
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Really.. drive a $65K 993TT and that 930.. if you still consider the 930 at that price your a true 930 man! 930's are not rare and while they hold their value fairly well I sure as hell wouldn't invest in one...
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cant beat the the body of a 930,i think a fat tail 930 beats a carrera GT. just my opinion.
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Ive have been watching the market for about 8 months while i was looking for a 930 . It did spike pretty hard in the last few months. They say the 930s are gonna be the next hot auction cars.
I've been watching the 930 market also the last few months. My impression is their prices are holding steady, not spiking. What am I missing or where am I not looking? Who are "they?"

Of course, I want them to hold steady since I'm in the market for one. They can spike out of control after one is in my garage.
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Really.. drive a $65K 993TT and that 930.. if you still consider the 930 at that price your a true 930 man! 930's are not rare and while they hold their value fairly well I sure as hell wouldn't invest in one...
There was an article in GT Purely Porsche a while ago about buying a very good 930. can't remember what was said verbatim but along the lines of, an appreciating classic. That does'nt mean it's a good investment. I think what their eluding to is that your not likely to lose money over your ownership time. Which I guess is a good if you own the car for a while have some fun and move on and your not out of pocket.

Not sure about the US but here in Oz it's becoming very difficult to find an unmodified original Australian delivered car. If you find one here with low kms and one or two owners and in VERY good original condition you'll part with AU$60-70k for an '80-'85. I paid AU$60k for my Aust. Del. '85 1 owner with 93,000kms with fsh.

As for a 993TT, we are paying close to AU$140k for a very nice example

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/PORSCHE/993/details.aspx?Model=993&__Nne=20&__N=4294963765+0+4294959127+834+285+257&Make=PORSCHE&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=0&seot=0&__sid=11118453CB93&R=558024&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32[/url]|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate _DateTime|1&trecs=4

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i almost picked up a 86 for 24 k but this car was burnt to a crisp,heavily modified possible overboost but opted for a 80 930 for 22k that im pretty happy with. but some of the 86 with high milage were going for a lot of moneyfrom 30k to 60 to 70k. i saw a 77 on ebay starting at 70k but the owner brought it down to like 60k when no one was hitting.
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I've been watching the 930 market also the last few months. My impression is their prices are holding steady, not spiking. What am I missing or where am I not looking? Who are "they?"
+1 I'm planning on hanging on to my car for life, so it's not a huge issue to me where the pricing of 930s go. But I have a hard time believing that these cars, of which thousands were made, are going to spike in value. I realize that production numbers don't always corellate with collector value. But I didn't buy my car because I thought it would appreciate in value.

That $66K price is in the collector/museum range. Driver 930s are worth about $25K-$45K. There are always a couple guys in the back of Pano asking around $60K for their uber-low mileage '89 930s, but those cars are meant to be trailered from garage to car show, and not really driven. I'd actually be somewhat hesitant to purchase such a low mileage car for mechanical reasons, if I actually intended to drive it at all.
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I have an idea! Kind of a pyramid scheme.....
Let's all sell our cars to each other for $100K! Then we will have created this huge over-inflated market of 930's out there.

Ok, who wants to be the first to buy my 930S for a $100K?
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Now this is turning into a pretty lively thread! I am looking at an '87 930 with 68k on the clock, with some mods, and full service records. Owner asking $32k, but price is negotiable. I inspected it and drove it. It appears to be meticulously maintained, but the formal PPI will be the final determinant. Seems $30k is a fair price. According to Sports Car Market, 930s gave an investment grade of "C." I am buying to drive it, not to make money.
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Now this is turning into a pretty lively thread! I am looking at an '87 930 with 68k on the clock, with some mods, and full service records. Owner asking $32k, but price is negotiable. I inspected it and drove it. It appears to be meticulously maintained, but the formal PPI will be the final determinant. Seems $30k is a fair price. According to Sports Car Market, 930s gave an investment grade of "C." I am buying to drive it, not to make money.
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i wish i bought mine sooner, love the car .adjusted valves yesterday HUGE job ,really kicked my ass. but im not gonna pay some1 cause im a mechanic. but wow , i have a new respect for porsche mechanics and now i know why they charge so much. the thought did cross my mind to pay some1.
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Valve adjustments SUCK on almost all of them.
I wish people were not paying more money for the origonal cars. If it were me buying one, I would pay more money for one of the EFI cars than the origonal CIS.
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I agree,cis is tempermental !
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You stated,

"Looking at blk/blk <10K mile stock '89 930. Owner asking $66K. Can the Excellence market value somehow be extrapolated to such a car?"

I've owned my 79 930 since 99 with 57K miles and have driven over 120K additional miles myself. I own to drive. A low mileage 930 will only retain its value as long as it remains a LOW mileage 930.

As Craig 930 RS said, "What's it worth to you?" I agree the $66K is above the norm, but so is the car you are describing. If you are just looking at $$$ Gary R brings up a great comparison of vehicle option. Yes, the 993TT can run circles around the 930.... no question. But it depends on what your intentions are with the vehicle.

The vehicle in question will only retain a high premium as long as you do not drive it. I, on the other hand, I drive Porsches....and when they get tired, I have them rebuilt.

Yes there were many 930s built, however...most were destroyed in the first few weeks of purchase or have been very abused. So, assuming the blk/blk 89 930 in question has been well cared for and properly documented with only $10K original miles....I do feel that is quite rare.

Well, if a 930 is what you are after...than a 993TT will never do. They are completely different cars. Personally, I would drive it regardless if it had 10K or 100K miles. I am approaching 180K miles on mine and just did a full rebuilt.



Wonderful car it is. And in all my years of ownership....never once an issue with CIS. CIS only becomes an issue if you want over 400 bhp.

In the latter part of 2006, I made extensive updates to the once factory 930. Many may not agree with my decisions....but I am really enjoying the car. When you purchase yours....you should do the same. It's not all about bhp...make them light...it's about power to weight.



Yes, that red car was once my 79 930. Now I made a 74 RSR/IROC with all 930 running gear including factory I/C all under the duck-tail. Do the math...under 2700 lbs.....and un-corked 930 power. Not too shabby. Make them "LIGHT" and let them "BREATH".

Lastly....in my opinion...the only thing going for an 89 is the 5 spd. I perfer the 78/79. Non catalyst vehicles...soon to be smog exempt....lighter....less creature comforts.

Just remember...
If that car "TALKS" to you...and it's "THE ONE", buy it, enjoy it.....DRIVE IT. I do....and I never look back!

Best of luck Pavulon in your search!

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