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Wanted: Dyno Graph of a STOCK 300HP Euro 930

Does anyone have a dyno graph of a stock 300HP Euro 930?
I'm looking for not only the HP and Torque graphs but also the A/F ratios that go with it.

Any help appreciated!
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:34 PM
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There is a engine dyno in my euro handbook for bhp & tq.
I made one up from it.
Hopefully someone has one with a AFR chart.

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Does anyone have a chart with AFR ?
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1981 UK 930. G50/01 shortened, 964 3.8RS Fibreglass Body Kit, 18" Alloys 8.5" F & 10" R, 225's F & 285's R, Special Colour Metallic Blue Paint, FIA Sparco Evo's, A/C and Air Pump removed, Electronic Boost Controller, GHL Headers, Tial46 WG.
Fitting - New service kit.
Needs Fitting - Innovate XD-16 Kit, Kokeln IC. Stephen's K27 HFS, EVO Intake Assy & his Modded USA Fuel Head.

1983 UK 911 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe. Black, Black Leather with Red Piping, Black Alloy Gear Knob, K&N Air Filter Element, Turbo Tie rods.
Needs Fitting - K&N CO Sensor, Round A/F Dial Gauge, Factory Short Shift Kit.

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Thanks Nathan.

What would be ideal is a modern dyno run that shows HP, Torque, and A/F ratios to about 6500 RPM using a 300HP stock Euro 930.

As an alternate I could use LM-1 data from the same engine. What I am looking for is fuel system delivery data from a stock engine as a point of reference or baseline to compare to the tuning I have done.
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Ah, I see what you are up to. I hope you get one.
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1981 UK 930. G50/01 shortened, 964 3.8RS Fibreglass Body Kit, 18" Alloys 8.5" F & 10" R, 225's F & 285's R, Special Colour Metallic Blue Paint, FIA Sparco Evo's, A/C and Air Pump removed, Electronic Boost Controller, GHL Headers, Tial46 WG.
Fitting - New service kit.
Needs Fitting - Innovate XD-16 Kit, Kokeln IC. Stephen's K27 HFS, EVO Intake Assy & his Modded USA Fuel Head.

1983 UK 911 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe. Black, Black Leather with Red Piping, Black Alloy Gear Knob, K&N Air Filter Element, Turbo Tie rods.
Needs Fitting - K&N CO Sensor, Round A/F Dial Gauge, Factory Short Shift Kit.

http://www.danasoft.com/sig/Iamnotanumber.jpg
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Here is a dyno of my 3.0L ROW 930 motor. It is not quite what you asked for. The motor has a K27 turbo, a big intercooler and shorty headers and a 1 bar spring but only got 12 or 13 PSI of boost. It ran lean
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Ouch Dean, is that A/F curve/line correct?
I assume you have it under control now.

Thanks for posting. Once I find a stock 930 CIS graph I'll start looking for EFI graphs as well.

How about this:
ANYONE WITH A STOCK EURO 930 MEETING MY QUALIFICATIONS THAT IS WILLING TO DRIVE TO HUNTSVILLE GETS A FREE DYNO RUN ON ME.
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Yes, that A/F ratio is correct. I did correct it by selling the CIS and going with EFI.

I also have an EFI dyno chart if you want.
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I'd like to take a look at your EFI graph as well.
The above graph is CIS?
Is EFI the only change you made after the above dyno run?
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The above dyno chart is CIS.

Here is the EFI one. The things I changed when I went to EFI were:

SC cams
Carrera manifold
Slightly bigger intercooler.
Port matched head for Carrera manifold.

Also the EFI chart is on a DynoDynamic dyno. Not a DynoJoke I mean Jet.

The guy who ran the dyno said that my motor put out the same hp but a hair less torque than a stock 996TT. Not bad for a 3.0l running 13 psi of boost. So what did I do? I turned the boost up to 18 psi when I got home.

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