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Turbo ID (Today's Quiz?)

Can anybody ID these Turbos..

Friend of mine has on of these on his car & the other sitting on his shelf.

Just trying to fiqure out what they are and which one is better to use.

Turbo #1: ID Plate: K27 3070 GGD 11.11
86 061 2062
5327 970 7006
Cast into the Housing: 5327 101 50 65


Turbo #2: ID Plate: Kund-NR 3 18 92 28 00
ATL-NR 19577
AUSF- NR 5327 999 9301
Cast intp the Housing: 5327 101 50 65


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Turbo #1 is a K27-11/11. Old school by todays standard.
Turbo #2 I do not recognize.
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:54 AM
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I f you post over on Rennlist, Kevin can help you - he is the premier turbocharger expert.
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Thanks Brian and Craig!

Old school by todays standards huh? What is it comparable to? Seems to spool frairly rapid.. car packs a whallup and is plenty fast.

Any reccomendations for upgrade?
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Call Kevin for your actual needs based upon your build - personally I'm a huge fan of his K27 HF or HFS turbos.
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Any upgrade depends on you application. There aren't too many significant variations on the 930 theme, so if you list your mods and intended use someone will know what turbo best matches your needs. Asking a 930 tuner is a good start but asking the end user is a good idea as well. There are non-K27 turbos to consider that do a good job for less money.
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Car is used for street and may see a DE every now and then.

Engine is 3.3 to 3.4,
Andial IC
P & P heads
CIS, W/Euro fuel head, lines etc..
Pwrhaus T3 cams?, & headers
1 bar spring


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I'm not familiar with the Powerhaus cam but the favored K27 turbo for use with CIS right now is the 7200S.
Goran (BeepBeep) here on the board is very knowledgeable on turbos for the various 930 applications. He does not stay in the K27 "box" and may have other suggestions.

What are P&P heads and how do they differ from stock?
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Heads are ported & polished... (P&P)
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Goran is a great resource. He is not making money off of his suggestions so that makes him even more unbiased.. Tripple K's are fine but Look into t3/t4 hibrids or even T4's you may find what you want cheaper there
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Goran is a great resource. He is not making money off of his suggestions so that makes him even more unbiased.. Tripple K's are fine but Look into t3/t4 hibrids or even T4's you may find what you want cheaper there
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This may help you:

http://www.ultimatemotorwerks.com/
http://www.ultimatemotorwerks.com/products.html#930

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With headwork done you are looking at a potential for 400RWHP with CIS.
The 7006 (K27-11/11) will not likely get him there. All he needs is a set of SC or similar cams and a K27S or similar turbo. Tune the A/F and he is there.
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Yep.
I am at 438 RWHP with 964 cams, adju WUR, .9 bar, (nearly) optimized fueling, and a K27 HF zero clearance (custom) turbo.
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It all sounds like good stuff to me! I'll pass it along.

Uhh, assume Goran is a website?

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It's been a rough day Craig, thanks for the laugh.
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Yeah, that was funny.. asked because I had not recalled seeing the name..
not to mention,, everything seem to have a website these days!

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