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I'll even ship them to M&K if that's your preference.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:39 PM
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Hey Ben....you wanna take this on....???
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I will take them!!
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Hey Ben....you wanna take this on....???
Okay to be fair, I offered them to you first...however, I think "kleinbbc" is on if you decide to pass. Please advise. Just so that we are clear, this is for a set of B&B headers with heat, and single out muffler, and the high temp orange SCEET tubing (runs from the fan shroud to the heater boxes) for US$200.00 plus shipping and any box I need to buy. I'm not in the shipping business, so it will all be my cost and I will provide the invoice for shipping and supplies as proof that I'm making nothing extra for "handling". I offer no guarantee what-so-ever and I will include the original B&B invoice.
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Did you get a set of OBX headers? I have a brand new (still in the box) set of Schnell headers from Vertex (w/o heat) that I would like to sell. Good luck.

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merv, are gsf 321 stainless?
No, the GFS's are T304. Nothing wrong with T304. It's used by some pretty reputable turbo tuners in the states, such as Protomotive, for their custom single and twin turbo headers.

T321 will stay shinier for longer, but I've heard it gets brittle easier and develop cracks faster.
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i just wondered because the 304 ssi's, I'm betting will fail in a short time, I could be wrong but people have said they will. maybe they don't know anything, i don't really know.
in the end I'll take ben's advice and go with whatever he says when and if mine fail.
the more i think about it the more i believe the heat inside the actual heater boxes plays an important role

maybe that's why they call me moto, (master of the obvious0
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Did you get a set of OBX headers? I have a brand new (still in the box) set of Schnell headers from Vertex (w/o heat) that I would like to sell. Good luck.

Tom
Thanks, Tom! Yes, I did end up purchasing the OBX headers.
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I''ll fix em if someone want to send em here..


as to what the difference between 304 and 321 the 321 is alloyied with TI and is less likely to rust and crack like 304. 304 also becomes very plastic like at about 1400 degrees. 321 can better handle that and the acids from the engine.. Most turbo people use 321 but it is very expensive and sometimes hard to get ahold of it as it is a very small part of the industry.. If our main line NA mufflers were made of 304 we could sell them for at least 150 dollars less...
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Hmmmm...Thanks Ben.....

I'll pass to klein, sandman....
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again I suggest the ssi 930 setup as the permenent soulition..
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The OBX headers will fit, no problem....


I'd suggest beating on them with a rubber mallet or deadblow to make sure there are no semi-loose beads or slag waiting to chomp on your turbo. I didn't notice or shake loose anything on this set, but....

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Thanks for the advice, Pat! I'm really looking forward to going heaterboxLESS! So much cleaner under there...I love the uncluttered look!
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I believe Kevin (builder the K27 HF-S) recommends chasing the welds with a file prior to the install - I've seen 2 sets of the OBX that were pretty sloppy inside.
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He also suggests washing out the headers with a bottle brush and hot soapy water.
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B&B headers for sale**update**

Well gang, I hate to disappoint and I'm sorry to have mislead a few of you regarding the sale of my leaking B&B headers, but I've decided to keep them and have them fixed - even if it means having the heater boxes cut off to properly repair them. I'll just add them to the pile of spares I have.

I got several emails from some folks that have been following this thread and all advised me to cool my jets and just have them fixed and save for a rainy day when the El Cheapos (OBX) decide to take a crap! I must admit, I was pretty pissed at B&B and was just looking to rid them of my site! Even the wife advised me to hang on to them...considering the purchase price.

The single out B&B muffler, however, I'm happy to let go.

Again, all apologies...
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It amazes me that people keep buying B&B products.
I hear this same story of bad welds and customer service repeated over and over ......

Here's an idea, send your leaky heat exchangers to MotorMiester for repair. Maybe two wrongs can make a right! Ha!

Just yankin' you a bit, no insults intended.
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It amazes me that people keep buying B&B products.
I hear this same story of bad welds and customer service repeated over and over ......

Here's an idea, send your leaky heat exchangers to MotorMiester for repair. Maybe two wrongs can make a right! Ha!

Just yankin' you a bit, no insults intended.
None taken. FWIW, the welds (aesthetically speaking) are actually quite good on my B&Bs. Customer service, however, is another story As I mentioned, these are the headers that came on my car when I bought it. They'll be repaired by a local welder and relegated to a corner in my garage for the day when I might need them again...hoping to have better luck with something else.
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Lets hope we have many more mild winters here in NC, or you will have to put your kids in arctic parkas when you take them to school in the mornings! I will have the SSI's on mine so we can compare over time which ones hold up the best, I'm sure we will have some spirited drives coming up as soon as I get mine put back together!
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Lets hope we have many more mild winters here in NC, or you will have to put your kids in arctic parkas when you take them to school in the mornings! I will have the SSI's on mine so we can compare over time which ones hold up the best, I'm sure we will have some spirited drives coming up as soon as I get mine put back together!
LOL! I have little doubt that your SSIs are the way to go for longevity and comfort! I just needed a quick, cheap fix! The OBXs will be here today.

Funny, the crawl space under my house is littered with Porsche exhaust parts: I've got the factory muffler and exhaust pipes, these cursed B&B headers and single out muffler, a Fabspeed Zork tube, the original waste gate and exhaust, the old air injection system, and Jimmy Hoffa's well preserved dead body! If I ever decide to sell my car, someone will get a truck load of spares!

Yeah, with the removal of my AC and the the loss of a heating system, my car has quickly turned into a body with four wheels and an engine! I guess, I'll hand my kids blankets during the winter months and those cheeky battery powered hand held personal fans in the summer!
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