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Lightbulb DP Tail...

I think I'm going to get this tail for my car, along with the 965/C2T bumpers & rockers all round. I also want to fit the aerodynamic DP / RUF style mirrors.

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think it looks mega-tuff and will accommodate any size intercooler

What do you guys think?

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I think it looks great. I would just have the cover plain black so as not to highlight the dp though.
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I think the car.....

should be able to back up the statement made by that tail!!!! By the looks of your signature......it shouldn't be a problem!!!!
I like it....agree with Nathan about removing the DP though.

Post photos when done!!!!!

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Thanks fellas. Yeh, I won't be having any DP logo on it. Just a nice chrome 996TT "Turbo" badge
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I think the dp is actually sunken into the cover, not just a sticker. I have never actually seen one though, only pics.
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The tail I'm buying is an exact replica of the DP tail above... no DP logo on it.

This kind of tail will allow me to mount the intercooler right above and in front of the engine fan. The fan will suck a tonne of air through the core, improving it's cooling efficiency dramatically
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Your cooling will definitely improve if the full bay is open at the top. Mine cools too well in the "winter" and I have to block some of it off.
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Your cooling will definitely improve if the full bay is open at the top. Mine cools too well in the "winter" and I have to block some of it off.
"COOL" - are you saying you are seeing close to ambient temps on the outlet of the IC in winter?
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Hi
I've had a few DP replica spoilers, some are very heavy. Get the weight first before buy.

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Intake charge cooling is a function of the efficiency of the intercooler, not so much the tail design. What I get in the "winter" (read - temps below 50*F) is an engine that won't warm up to 180* which causes the WUR to keep kicking down the pressure. I have to block off some of the tail opening so the engine won't cool off as much.
The intercooler does cool off much more due to the lower ambient temperatures of the air forced through it. Free power.

Those tails are heavy. I am looking for alternatives myself.
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Are they even heavier than the factory 930 turbo tails with the bulky rubber edging? The supplier said the DP extended tail weighs somewhere between 14-20lbs. He hasn't got one in stock to get actual weight, but said it's much lighter than the OEM 930 turbo tail.
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the weight depends on the laminate and the design, some use the factory rubber and some have the rubber section replicated with composite construction. I kept the lightest one I could find out of three in my shop, give you a weight on it tomorrow. Its molded in one pc like the original DP spoilers.
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That'd be great, thanks. I'm sure the full f/glass unit will still be lighter than the OEM turbo tail. Not to mention the weight saving by replacing the impact style bumpers with full f/glass C2T units too
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The one I have now is 20lbs.
The first one I bought was close to 30lbs, they seem to vary quite a bit. Just check before you purchase.

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the 965/C2T bumpers are the ghey.

(that means damn cool right?)

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The one I have now is 20lbs.
The first one I bought was close to 30lbs, they seem to vary quite a bit. Just check before you purchase.

Dan
Thanks, Dan.

Is yours the Extended DP/Kremer 930 style tail, or the Extended DP RS3.8 style tail (like shown above)?
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Its the Kremer style, think they both have the same bottom section with massive amounts of room for the intercooler. Give you alot of options on placement and size.

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Yes, the extended base allows for much more flexible positioning of the i/cooler. Ideally, you want the IC's core right in front of the engine fan so it sucks through a tonne of air through the core for best cooling efficiency - an absolute must when running big boost
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Nice:
where can i get one?
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