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Thanks for the link. it looks Nice, but it;s not a turbo as far as I can see.
I am looking for a turbo 911.
If you are looking for a turbo, especially a factory slantnose, you have to adjust your budget accordingly. If that $25k slant was too hot for you, and you want a real turbo, you will probably have to go for a 3.0 non-intercooled turbo. Those fit within your budget parameters and all you will need to do it swap out the front fenders and install headlight buckets and motors.

Personally, I prefer the classic 911 silhouette, but there was a time when I lusted after a slantnose.
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wide body? what is the diffrence between these. the 911 turbo does not look as wide as the slant nose? can some one please explain?



They all have the same fender width.................
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They all have the same fender width.................
what about the side vent and the side skirt?
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They all have the same fender width.................
also what about the front lower spoiler?. they are all different.
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what about the side vent and the side skirt?
the vents and boxed rockers have nothing to do with fender width......trust me I know..........
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also what about the front bumper lower spoilers? they are all different
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the vents and boxed rockers have nothing to do with fender width......trust me I know..........
well i must say that I like the side vents and the rocker panel (side skirts). also i like the front spoilers on the red ruf 911 turbo and the slant nose non turbo. however the black car is a syock 911 turbo. so that becomes confusing. what cars came with the side vents and the side skirts. or is that after market stuff.?
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I think you may just want to study the subject a bit.............factory slantnose cars are $50k and up..........good luck with your search.
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Nice car. But why does your front bumper looks different from the silver car?
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"Side vent and side skirt"
Those are for slant nose cars. The vents in the rear steel fenders were done at the factory, and the black slats are wooden. The side skirts are called "boxed rockers." Again, these were done for slant nose cars. There were a couple cars from the factory that came with these two elements, but with normal (non-slant nose) front fenders. They would be called slant nose deletes. The red car you posted would be an example of that. From the factory, these would be super rare (I have no idea the exact number, but probably on the order of single digit production numbers per year).

US slant noses should look like Chuck and Blaine's cars. The front valence that you like on the silvery car you depicted looks like a Euro valence (with an oil cooler supposedly behind the center grill).

Going aftermarket for bodywork (particularly the front valences) is a common mod. You can get pretty much anything you want. Again, stock US front valence is what Chuck and Blaine are running.

To further confuse you, Porsche had (and still does) a "Special Wishes" program. You can pretty much order anything with anything, as long as you're willing to pay whatever the factory asks. So there might have been some original owner who was able to get a Euro front valence from the factory on his US car, or whatnot.

While it sounds like you don't believe us, Blaine Sellie is right when he tells you that fender width is all the same.
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There were also some slight nuances between the 87 (first year of the M505) and the later ones. In the 87, there's no thermostatically controlled fan on the rear fender mounted oil cooler. I've seen the fan on either the 88 or the 89, so Porsche must have decided that the oil cooler needed a little more air forced thru the radiator and added the fan at some point. In some cases you might see (or not see) a particular part applied universally throughout the 87 thru 89 models....but you have to remember that some of the development was going on..."on the fly" as the later models came out.
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The silver car has a RUF style front valance.
The red car has a stock style front valance.
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"Side vent and side skirt"
Those are for slant nose cars. The vents in the rear steel fenders were done at the factory, and the black slats are wooden. The side skirts are called "boxed rockers." Again, these were done for slant nose cars. There were a couple cars from the factory that came with these two elements, but with normal (non-slant nose) front fenders. They would be called slant nose deletes. The red car you posted would be an example of that. From the factory, these would be super rare (I have no idea the exact number, but probably on the order of single digit production numbers per year).

US slant noses should look like Chuck and Blaine's cars. The front valence that you like on the silvery car you depicted looks like a Euro valence (with an oil cooler supposedly behind the center grill).

Going aftermarket for bodywork (particularly the front valences) is a common mod. You can get pretty much anything you want. Again, stock US front valence is what Chuck and Blaine are running.

To further confuse you, Porsche had (and still does) a "Special Wishes" program. You can pretty much order anything with anything, as long as you're willing to pay whatever the factory asks. So there might have been some original owner who was able to get a Euro front valence from the factory on his US car, or whatnot.

While it sounds like you don't believe us, Blaine Sellie is right when he tells you that fender width is all the same.
Thanks for the info.. and i did beleive you about the width.
Now of course my question will be how hard is it to get the rocker boxes, the vented fenders and the euro front spoiler? factory or after market is ok. also how hard is it to replace the rear fenders. and in cars with out vented fenders. where is the oil cooler?. and is it the same size as the vented fender cars? Can it be relocated when the vented fenders are installed?
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This is what a 911 Turbo Targa looks like.
Factory cars are rare. This one is a conversion.



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This is what a 911 Turbo Targa looks like.
Factory cars are rare. This one is a conversion.



Wow nice,, vey nice. can't wait to have my own... it looks like it's gonna be a while by the time I decide on one. but just like my 1988 saab 900 spg it took me 2 years of search and I test drove 10 cars befor I actually found the right one.
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Check out this thread:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=356044
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There were also some slight nuances between the 87 (first year of the M505) and the later ones. In the 87, there's no thermostatically controlled fan on the rear fender mounted oil cooler. I've seen the fan on either the 88 or the 89, so Porsche must have decided that the oil cooler needed a little more air forced thru the radiator and added the fan at some point. In some cases you might see (or not see) a particular part applied universally throughout the 87 thru 89 models....but you have to remember that some of the development was going on..."on the fly" as the later models came out.
My 1987 505 code 930 has the factory installed fan on the fender mounted oil cooler, so I'm certain that your info is not all accurate. Also, the slant shop manual for 87 and the parts diagrams do show the fan and the brackets for it. The newly added parts diagrams on Pelican also show the fan in 87.
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Here's your dream car:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-PORSCHE-911-%20TURBO_W0QQitemZ120128965253QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1 0156QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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