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Angry I just found out my 930 has Web cams ....

I don't know if that's good or not ? .... the seller told me they were stock cams, but in plowing through the piles of receipts last night I see otherwise. The bone head who wrote the receipt didn't specify a part number.
The car pulls well off boost, runs strong as hell on boost and has a nice idle at 1,000 rpm, so they must not be too bad.


Here's another thing; The Porsche mechanic who came to my house last night to do a PPI on my Boxter told me that the Euro spec Turbos have their own Euro part numbers and so good luck in finding pistons and rings when I need them. ...... that doesn't sound right to me... these motor were all 3.3L and the same bore and stroke as far as I know?
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You shouldn't have any trouble finding pistons. Besides, if/when you want to replace them, the dark side will come calling and force you to install 3.4 pistons with fully finned cylinders .
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You shouldn't have any trouble finding pistons. Besides, if/when you want to replace them, the dark side will come calling and force you to install 3.4 pistons with fully finned cylinders .
Amen! What a slippery slope 930 ownership can be...
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You shouldn't have any trouble finding pistons. Besides, if/when you want to replace them, the dark side will come calling and force you to install 3.4 pistons with fully finned cylinders .






I think I can deal with that!
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You shouldn't have any trouble finding pistons. Besides, if/when you want to replace them, the dark side will come calling and force you to install 3.4 pistons with fully finned cylinders .

Oh, yes!! The Dark Side.... It has called me for the last year or so...forcing me to spend thousands and thousands over what a normal rebuild would have cost.... Damn the dark side......
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TOTAL BS...
My engine is from a 1983 Euro, and I order the same freaking gaskets, pistons, cylinders, rings, rockers, valves, tranny parts as a US Model.

Its all the same...

And if its not... Well I've got tons of video that'll show that you'll still have a good time with it, even if they aren't the "correct" parts...

edit: for CIS parts you may have a little trouble... simply because they are Euro CIS parts, but other than that, its all the same...
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Re: I just found out my 930 has Web cams ....

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I don't know if that's good or not ? .... the seller told me they were stock cams, but in plowing through the piles of receipts last night I see otherwise. The bone head who wrote the receipt didn't specify a part number.
Are you sure they might not have just been reground to stock specs? Do webcams offer that service?
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Re: Re: I just found out my 930 has Web cams ....

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Are you sure they might not have just been reground to stock specs? Do webcams offer that service?
I don't think so... it just says: 2 Web-Cam Remon Cams ....$464.80

It could say Reman cams too ... hard to tell ... what ever that means?
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Webcams are very good.
If you have part numbers, you may be able to find your grind.
http://www.webcamshafts.com/
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Webcams are very good.
If you have part numbers, you may be able to find your grind.
http://www.webcamshafts.com/

No, that's what I was saying, the receipt has no PN ... it just says: 2 Web-Cam Remon Cams ....$464.80
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Seriously, I was thinking web cams like naked chicks on their computer web cams!
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I think the receipt may be for "reman" short for remanufactured not "remon". If they are regrinds, the camshafts will have a grind number on them at the end of the shafts. Call WebCams once you get that number and they can tell you what kind of grind it is.
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I think the receipt may be for "reman" short for remanufactured not "remon". If they are regrinds, the camshafts will have a grind number on them at the end of the shafts. Call WebCams once you get that number and they can tell you what kind of grind it is.
Oh, yeah that make sense. I'll probably have to wait until it's time to set the valves and then I'll check. Too, I have the phone number of the 2nd owner who had the work done. I can call him and possibly get more info too.

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Unfortunately, you won't see the grind number unless you remove the cam sprocket. The number is stamped on the very end of the cams.
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Unfortunately, you won't see the grind number unless you remove the cam sprocket. The number is stamped on the very end of the cams.

oh


Well, it's good to know it's there if I need to know.
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I would have thought remanufactured should mean they are stock spec. If they said Reprofiled then they could be different.

I am guessing they could be remanufactured SC cams?
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I think the easiest way to find out is call the guy who owned the car when this was done. I have his number and he'll be back from vacation Sunday. Hopefully he remembers what was done and is willing to disclose some info.
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I have spoke to previous owners of my P cars, I think every time I have called they are worried I am going to complain that something broke though hehe. The conversation gets better when they find out you are not complaining!
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Re: I just found out my 930 has Web cams ....

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I don't know if that's good or not ? .... the seller told me they were stock cams, but in plowing through the piles of receipts last night I see otherwise. The bone head who wrote the receipt didn't specify a part number.
The car pulls well off boost, runs strong as hell on boost and has a nice idle at 1,000 rpm, so they must not be too bad.


Here's another thing; The Porsche mechanic who came to my house last night to do a PPI on my Boxter told me that the Euro spec Turbos have their own Euro part numbers and so good luck in finding pistons and rings when I need them. ...... that doesn't sound right to me... these motor were all 3.3L and the same bore and stroke as far as I know?
If your mechanic told you that I wouldn't let him work on your 930 if I were you. Just a thought...

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Re: Re: Re: I just found out my 930 has Web cams ....

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I don't think so... it just says: 2 Web-Cam Remon Cams ....$464.80

It could say Reman cams too ... hard to tell ... what ever that means?
I think those are regrinds, that's what the reman means. The Billet cams from them cost more than that. WebCam makes good stuff. I would be happy with it. Used to run them in my 240Z days. I considered them when I did my car, but the timeframe didn't work and I went with IA.

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