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Has anyone tried an Aero Muffler....

http://www.aeroexhaust.com/suv_exhaust_3030.html

Just wondering if any pelicaner's have had any experience with these mufflers on turbo motors.
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l`ve been thinking of trying one,they sure look cool enough
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why when you can have one of these
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ls that your design? looks pretty nice to me but there`s something futuristic about the Aero..and the technology seems to "fit" with a turbo.The guy at my local Midas says the Aero is loud with a unique sound.l know l`ll be be able to re-sell an Aero pretty easily if l don`t like it. How much are yours?
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Ben -

Does yours have a support for the right side of the muffler?
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Ben -

Does yours have a support for the right side of the muffler?
yup it does have a support. This is Brain from rarly8.coms design.. We just make it for him
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Ben, if there is going to be a bend to take the exhaust out the driver's side why not have the long pipe before the muffler to allow more room for a wideband O2 sensor?
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Any muffler with a straight through design will work well with a turbo.

The space available for a muffler on the 930 is restricted to about 6" OD before you start hanging out the bottom or hitting the heat shield. You cannot likely use the stock outlet with a muffler that large in diameter. Mine was designed to tuck up as much as possible so that a nice symetrical line is seen just below the valance.

Another thing to consider is wieght. Our system complete weighs just 10 pounds. No straps are needed if you use the stock turbo bracket, but one can be added in the stock position if desired.

I've got a couple of these out in the field now and will do a formal introduction once all the data is in and any issues addressed.

In all fairness to the original posting, these mufflers do not compare. The Aero may be an inexpensive alternative that a muffler shop can weld up for you. My system is a direct bolt-on made of the best materials available and designed specifically for the 911Turbo, not an SUV.
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Yikes! I don't know if Pelican will like all of that being posted Craig. That list is a moving target due to some costs increasing and some decreasing. It's a work in progress.
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just to be clear on this and sorry for screwing up the thread but here it is

Brain had an idea we built his design. he will be selling them to our host(I am pretty sure) and some others as well. So we are pretty much out of the design loop etc.. I do apploigize for causing a potential to ruffle feathers here..
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Brian, I'll delete the post I copied from your site Ben listed.

Since your partner in fab posted your site adress & Pelican gave you permisson I read about earlier I spelled out the details so...
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Ben:

Actually, i am looking to fit 2 mufflers (somehow) behind my stock bumper for my TT setup. I was looking at the Aero because of the size and because they seem kewl but i think it will be very tight to fit.

I may have to go with 2 4" mufflers, or a pair with oval configuration (12x9x4" - i.e. borla). I need 2.5" pipes (in/out). I got a feeling that in the end i will be replacing my stock 89 bumper with a FG C2 turbo bumper to get more room.
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Thank you Craig, I know you meant well and no offense to Pelican.

I do have permission from Pelican to talk about my products on their forum, but only the products that they will carry. Anything else is probably best unspoken (or unseen - Ha!)

Now back to the post at hand.
The Aero muffler is a nice looking unit but you can't really see the muffler on a 930. What is different about the sound?

If you are looking for an inexpensive performance muffler I'd go with a 3" ID cherry bomb. It's a perfect design for turbo use and dirt cheap. A step up in cost would be a Borla of the same design. Those mufflers are heavy but they would function quite well.

Something like this:

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Mike - you are right about the stock bumper being restrictive. My FG bumper has TONS of room. I don't even run a heat shield when on the track!

Where are you putting your turbos, on the sides or in the rear?
Side mounts are no issue for the exhaust you can do something like this:


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Can I chime in here?

I had a cherry bomb on the 930, and there is suprisingly very little difference between that and the Zork.
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Brian:
The turbos are at the back of the motor. Just like Mike R.'s motor (mike the mechanic) (since i have his old I/C).

As per Craig's mention, I may try Zork intially, but I would like some street friendly sound level. The car is a cabrio, so i have to put up with it as well.

(BTW: Brian that is a nice pic of an exhaust, but the motor would work better if it wasnt missing 2 cylinders)
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So this would be too loud for you? hehe



You might need a big bumper for this one:



This one shows some interesting creativity:

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All kidding asside, if memory serves Mike's turbo placement was high and tight. I might be able to modify a set of M&K track silencers to fit if you give me the exact space requirements and geometry involved.

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Mike,

I am making some mufflers right now for patkeefe. It is a custom straight through that he will end up welding the inlet and outlets on. let me know if you have some demensions .. as to Brian the track mufflers are only 2 inch ID so that would be to restrictive for a turbo application
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Woops, thought they were 2.5" ID.
Either way a custom fitment is likely necessary given the space constraints.
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