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930 that can "chase a GT3 and Cup Car"?

OK, here goes:

My 930 can out accelerate both, but I'm telling ya.....a GT3 and a Cup have phenomenal corner entry speeds and braking. Just incredible.

Thus, at the present time a 997 Cup on slicks eats my lunch, beats me up at recess, and takes my girl at the prom.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:56 PM
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Comparing a 94' 964 3.6 to any 3.3/Turbo is like comparing apples to oranges. I personally ran both in my 77' conversion. Due to fiberglass fenders/quarters/bumpers, my car was around 2200/lbs at most.

I upgraded to a 86' 3.3 turbo motor 1st. The only mods I had on it was a 1/bar spring, a K-27, and a set of GHL headers. This motor coupled with my light body made the car scream!!

It was very dependable for a good 5/years with very low maintenance. Finally that dreaded day came when I had that awful sound (rod knock). Instead of doing a re-build, I opted for a stock 94' C/2 motor.

The motor I found had only 40k on it and had a few mods (intake, exhaust, chip). I figured it should be making somewhere in the 280hp range. The car was still very quick, but I have no doubt that the 3.3 would have smoked it.

I eventually sold it because it was no longer fun to drive. I now have an 01' 996 with race headers, k&n intake, mapped computer, and even though I know it's heavier, it would have smoked the 3.6 as well.

Point I'm making is we can all state our opinions on what we think is faster based on this and based on that. Until you line them up against one another, know one really knows. I do have the advantage of having both engines in the same car and I opt for the turb anyday!!
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My 930 can out accelerate both, but I'm telling ya.....a GT3 and a Cup have phenomenal corner entry speeds and braking. Just incredible.
Any wonder, why I've been building my 930 to the specs it is (weighted with 120L gasoline tank full and driver in: 2579lb, without driver, tank empty 2138lb)?
You can give an excellent response for GT3 Cup even with 964 378Hp 3,8 Racing RSR (with 993 bodywork) with the same suspension and brake setup I have now. We've tested it in 2 different tracks with a professional FIA GT race driver, difference in lap times between 0,5-1,2sec. (in 2 min.45s lap) But must admit, 996 GT3 Cup is way easier to catch the top lap time. But in my 930 car I still have performance optimized 3,4L turbo. Compared to GT3 Cup and just mentioned RSR we haven't tested yet, but such a test will become.

If I have equal or better weight ratio to the other car (even if GT3 ro CUP), by being a slalom cone on a track would be stupendous and humiliating, therefore I make an allusion to my earlier comments about suspension and brakes.
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:44 PM
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This has gotten waaaaay off topic.
The original posting was asking for to compare a STOCK 3.6 with a 915 vs a STOCK 930 with a 4spd. Both 280HP.
Do you really think a laggy long geared STOCK 930 could take a 3.6L 915 narrow body with 400 pound weight advantage? Even if you abused the clutch on the 930 and kept it in boost the 3.6L would have a gearing and wieght advantage.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:55 AM
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Basically there are so many variables that the original question is moot, anyway.
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I agree with Craig...
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