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Build it, that would be one hell of a car with the listed mods.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:25 AM
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I can only tell you what I know from past experience and I will give you the short version. I still have invoices totaling over $100K and have always regretted doing so. Granted the first engine build was just done wrong by the wrong shop, the second was done properly but took much longer then I was told and had it's problems as well. In short, I would take the money you plan on spending on the mods and upgrade to a newer car. You will be time amd money ahead. There's nothing equal to new Porsche technology! I like to spend my time driving my cars and not waiting for them to be shipped back to me from the shop. Just my 2 cents!!!!
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I can only tell you what I know from past experience and I will give you the short version. I still have invoices totaling over $100K and have always regretted doing so. Granted the first engine build was just done wrong by the wrong shop, the second was done properly but took much longer then I was told and had it's problems as well. In short, I would take the money you plan on spending on the mods and upgrade to a newer car. You will be time amd money ahead. There's nothing equal to new Porsche technology! I like to spend my time driving my cars and not waiting for them to be shipped back to me from the shop. Just my 2 cents!!!!
I think I have more fun working on the cars then I do driving them though...

I have started with a few minor mods so far, I have a k27 turbo sitting on my bench and a bunch of 4" SS pipe to make a custom exhaust. As far as the body goes I think I will start with some nice wheels and see how I like it...

And so it begins:
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I would just do the A/C upgrades. I wouldn't touch the exhaust. I would undo anything bad that the EPA/DOT conversion shop did to the car.

I have a 77 930.
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I think I have more fun working on the cars then I do driving them though...

And so it begins:

Please tell me you are joking!
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F*** that exhaust! Unbolt the whole thing from the heads back and send it to the recycle yard.... or to one of those Porsche drivers that like boost to come on 1000 rpm later than it should.
In reality, do what you think is best for the car. When you make a mod to the car, drive it and ask yourself "Is this what I like, or do I want more?" Sometimes you will absolutely hate what you have done and at the worst you could undo it.
With the exhaust system, there are no performance benefits to keeping the stock heat exchangers and muffler.
The heat exchangers will also be a topic of argument. I have the B&B set on my car and yes they have cracked, but all in all they have done their duty at over 10 years of use.
Oh yea, ditto on what Tom says about the epa/dot junk. Some of the people that have done those conversions have no right to work on a car, let alone a porsche
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F*** that exhaust! Unbolt the whole thing from the heads back and send it to the recycle yard.... or to one of those Porsche drivers that like boost to come on 1000 rpm later than it should.
In reality, do what you think is best for the car. When you make a mod to the car, drive it and ask yourself "Is this what I like, or do I want more?" Sometimes you will absolutely hate what you have done and at the worst you could undo it.
With the exhaust system, there are no performance benefits to keeping the stock heat exchangers and muffler.
The heat exchangers will also be a topic of argument. I have the B&B set on my car and yes they have cracked, but all in all they have done their duty at over 10 years of use.
Oh yea, ditto on what Tom says about the epa/dot junk. Some of the people that have done those conversions have no right to work on a car, let alone a porsche

Let me know if you're getting rid of those factory parts, please. It's basically true about increased power with a B&B, but that is not the whole story, in my opinion. I think that the factory set up is pretty good if you're going to drive the car a lot.
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Please tell me you are joking!
Please, please get some proper jackstands before this car is being offered for sale by your heirs.

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sorry tom, I gave them away a long time ago. I wish I had known because at one point I had 2 of almost all of the turbo components (1 Euro cis system)plus a seemingly brand new smog system. I had to pitch them to make room for new parts and a snow blower
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Please, please get some proper jackstands before this car is being offered for sale by your heirs.

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I dunno they are rated for 12k, the back of the car weighs what maybe 2k? Then add in the engineering FS....should be fine or someone in my family will get a good lawsuit
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IMHO, the 930 is my dream car. I absolutely love the way it looks off the show room floor, except the ride height on USA cars. but, I'm a boost junkie. so I have a completely stock looking 930 inside and out, gorgeous as the day she left Stuttgart. but will out run a 997 turbo with fabspeed straight pipes, handles like a race car, and stops on a dime. if you look under her skin shes no where near stock. thats the route I would take with your car. its absolutely perfect. I would just mod for performance. good luck.
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You have Euro heat exchangers which are not bad. I don't see how bolt-on mods could do any harm, it's all fully reversible.
My car was that same exact color when I bought it. Bone stock and one-owner original. I do enjoy it much more after all that has been done ......
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Hell yea to what Pkracer says. I did the same with my car; I gave her understressed 500 horsepower with the stock leather interior. Everything except the a/c that I took out is now in working order. Even my tailpipes could pass for stock to someone who doesnt know any better- just another slantnose with gold rims and a balding Italian behind the wheel...
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My apologies on the ramps. In the pic they look like some injection molded plastic cheapies. Lost a racer buddy in Alaska in the early 90s when his car slipped off the ramps and he was crushed beneath the transmission.

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Great color, although the boxed rockers don't belong. I would leave the H4's they are far better than the later H5's. Stay away from the RH's you will not be happy and they will bend easily, the speedlines are too heavy and too expensive and you will hate the ride with 18"s although they do look great. I would not go larger than 17's on it and to be honest the fuchs are some of the best wheels Porsche used. Porsche's prior to 1994 should not use 18"s and they will over time cause problems for street use.

Some engine mods are needed and the K27 will help try the BOV also. I agree if you are going to do anything with the exhaust do the full header system. B&B's do crack but they can be repaired and are better than stock, will reduce spool up tremendously.

No way should you go with C2 bumpers for all the money you are spending to add that expense you might as well sell it and by a 91 turbo.

I guess the biggest concern on mods is how many miles on the car. If it is below 50k you might want to keep it stock above it shouldn't hurt value too much unless you go over the top.

Did I mention that is a great color!
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For wheels, contact Jeff Alton at this site. He will give you a deal on Kodiak wheels, which are the best wheel for your buck from any pont of view, and supposedly they have a bunch of new styles which are not on their website.

Half the cost, custom built to your specs.

I would not update to the C2 style if it was me. The C2 style looks heavy and IMO clunky. It ruins the whole vintage look. I would go with some kind of vintage bumpers if you really want to change them, like Getty or GT racing or MA shaw has. Just my 2 cents...

If you keep the exterior in good condition, and don't sell off your stock components just because you remove them, you can switch back.

Personally, I am going to drive my car, so returning it to stock is the last thing I worry about. I would like to keep the car as fast as modern cars right up until they do away with gasoline engines. I would like to have the fastest 60 year old 930 around...

The 930 is the most fun handling street car I have ever had by a mile. I could care less if something else corners marginally better or whatever, the 930 is friggin fun to drive!!!!

Once you start modding your car, all thoughts of keeping it stock will gently fade from your mind, and a year from now you will probably be thinking 'why was I so worried about STOCK, anyway?'

My 2 cents....
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This is my old 74 RS clone. This happens to be a factory IROC bumper with oil cooler but you can get aftermarket versions also. I think it would keep the car more period which is big right now.
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This is my old 74 RS clone. This happens to be a factory IROC bumper with oil cooler but you can get aftermarket versions also. I think it would keep the car more period which is big right now.
Yea those bumpers look sweet. I just don;t like the black rubber accordian looking things on the stockers.
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