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930 values according to ebay

I have to run something by you guys. I occasionally watch the 930s for sale on ebay to see what they're bringing. The results are disappointing, most ending in "reserve not met". I see what some of these cars are bidding to and there's no way I'd let mine go for those dollars (if I were selling). I realize this is a dutch auction and the value is what it is, however, are the truely quailfied buyers the ones that are bidding? I've seen older N/A 911s bring equal dollars to some of the turbos, what's up with that?
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:08 AM
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Maybe it's always been the case, but as of late, I have been unable to use Ebay to accurately determine 930 values. I often see the same cars for sale week after week. Not sure if many of these "auctions" end with a bogus buyer unable to close the deal? Or if the reserve never gets met?

I know damn well that I'd be in the high $30s before I'd even think of letting someone pry my 930 from my cold dead hands! Once you've built an engine on a low mileage car that you paid a premium for...you are better off running the wheels off of it, than trying to sell it. No matter how I look at it, I'm taking a major bath if I went to sell mine. I'm in DEEP!
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I agree with Sand_man,, and there are getting to be fewer and fewer "stock" 930s around
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I agree with Sand_man,, and there are getting to be fewer and fewer "stock" 930s around
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That's why you want to keep all your spares (original parts) stored in your attic. These original parts are getting harder and harder to find and for the buyer to have all these parts, is a major plus.
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You guys all make great points... keeping all the OE parts is very smart IF you plan to sell the car.
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Would you convert it back nefore selling it? (just curious as I've been keeping all my stock parts)
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Would you convert it back nefore selling it? (just curious as I've been keeping all my stock parts)
Actually, no. If the customer wants to convert back, it's their option.
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That is my thought too, the parts are there if they desire to return engine to stock (and they probably won't IMO).
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I occasionally visit a high end auction here in Pa. and I see stock 930's go from 25,000-30,000.
This is dealer only.
If you look at Autotrader or Cars.com you need 30-40K to get a decent car unless you find someone in dire straits who needs to unload.
I personally love the aftermarket effects, and the hp, and the BOOOOOOOOOOST.....holy sh#t feeling I get from my 930 and it would take a good 35K "before I'd even think of letting someone pry my 930 from my cold dead hands!"

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I just sold my stock '85 with 113,000kms on the clock for AU$69,000. It took all of a week and a bit. There are people who are willing to pay a premium for an original example. I bought mine 18mths ago for AU$57,000.
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Convert it back or not? On my 951 (which I know is a very differnt animal bacause of low resale prices) the delta between modified and stock was only how fast the car sold. Maybe 1-2K difference. So I removed the suspension some of the bolt on motor stuff, returned it to stock and sold the car- I came within 1K of what I wanted and then sold all the goddies for a $3500 total. It was worth the couple of hours. FFT.
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i hate when people say it will deppreciate if you mod it.i mean the car isnt worth that much.look at the prices of new cars and trucks these days.do whatever you want to your car and enjoy it.thats what its all about.
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rg500930 makes a good point.

Relative to new car prices we are getting a lot of value for our money. Yes, there are repairs and parts prices are high. But consider this: I have a friend who works for an hourly wage. He likes sporty cars and is planning to move from a modified Honda Civic to a G35. A G35 is a nice enough car. But consider that he's probably going to pay as much for the G35 as I did for my 930. His go-fast parts aren't any cheaper and he's going to experience a lot of depreciation over the next 5 years. When he gets tired of the car or feels the itch for something new his car won't generate the kind of interest that a 930 generates.

Selling a 930 stock or modified might not fetch the kind of price we would like to see, but compared to many other newer cars we are still getting a deal. I plan to drive the wheels off of mine, then rebuild it and do the same thing again....
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Ebay isn't really the place to sell any car, not just a Porsche. Something about buying sight unseen keeps people cautious. I think Ebay is a great place to get some cheap exposure for rare and hard to find cars.

And heck yeah, why not plop down 30K for a car that will turn more heads and be more fun to drive and increase in value while you enjoy it, than to plop it down on a cookie cutter Japanese sports car that will be worth 60% of it's new value in about 5 years. This whole Porsche 930 buying thing started out with me looking at Honda S2000s and Boxters.
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Maxx1, that sounds like a wise build you have on your car. mostly stock with a few minor unobtrusive tweaks. I'm sure it flies.
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I have had people offer me $5-10k over what I paid for the car 3 years ago. The car is original except for the removed emissons equip and a GHL euro muffler.
The car has won a number of PCA concourse awards .. so the car is "known". It isnt tracked but it is driven rather spiritedly every week. Mileage is 36k... 24k when I bought it...oh yeah I paid $36k and from a P dealer... I got them to replace the windshield $1k, WUR $500, new tires $800, charge the AC, oil and filter change and perform a thorough PPI giving me cylinder leak down results...The dealer had just taken the car in as a trade... I suspect that they gave the PO $29-30K since it was in great shape.. I felt I got a good deal and would not sell the car for any amount of money now because I enjoy it soooo much!!

Clean 930s ROCK!!!!
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