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Question are magnecore wires ok for a 930?

im just throwing it out there and trying to get other peoples opinions
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I have had them for the last 5000+ miles, seem good to me.

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I have had them for the last 5000+ miles, seem good to me.

When the turbo is pumping it sucks in a tremendous amount of air;
the air cleaner that is on the 930 is way too small; one would be way better off with the stock air box - it will let a higher CFM flow into your CIS; also one really needs to allow the case to vent....

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so do they come with the grounding braids ,or I dont need them?
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so do they come with the grounding braids ,or I dont need them?
The Magnecors do NOT have the grounding braids. When I still had the stock ignition system, I briefly ran Magnecors with good results. I went to Electromotive twin-plug and got the Clewett wires, which I really love.
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The Magnecors do NOT have the grounding braids. When I still had the stock ignition system, I briefly ran Magnecors with good results. I went to Electromotive twin-plug and got the Clewett wires, which I really love.
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The Magnecores are very good wires. It's the spark plug boots that suck----really a piece of crap. Pricey wires with a cheap-a$$ boot. Ask me how I really feel!
Clewett builds a nice wire with good boots at an attractive price.

The braids were added back then when the engineers at Porsche were trying to fix the back-fire issue with the CIS systems. They thought there was some spark crossfire issues across the high tension leads. Little did they know that the problem was in the Bosch system!
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ok 1 more question who deals clewett and are they better than stock?
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Yes, better than stock.

http://www.clewett.com/
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I'll check em out, Thank You!
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Yes the Clewetts are better than stock. Richard Clewett is also a really nice guy to deal with! And I agree with Dave's comments about the Magnecore boots. The Clewett boots/connectors have a nice "click" to them when you've properly seated them on the spark plug.
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I bought a set of stock wires(Beru) about 8 years ago - I test them every once in a while and the leakage is basically the same as new. I might buy Clewetts when I need wires and can get a deal but these Beru wires are great - good boots and ground strap and they give the nice click too.
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What size Clewetts are you running? Do they come precut to fit and what did you do for spreaders?
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You'll need to ask Richard to install the top shelf connectors/boots. I ordered the Clewett wires (which are either magnacore or taylor wires wrapped in clewett logo'd heat wrap) with standard boots, and the rusted to the point they failed. I then installed the magnacore stainless connectors and haven't looked back. The clewett wires are still performing well and are recommended. I think they are 8mm.
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How does one test these wires?

I only know of the look at them in the dark trick or the fact that they have rubbed away or the connectors are corroded.

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another good trick to test for leakage is table salt water and spray bottle , the saltgive you a better path to ground!
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As for the Clewett wires, there was a point earlier on in his production run, where I think there were some corrosion/QC issues...it was hit or miss, not all of the wire sets during this time had problems. HOWEVER, these issues have been resolved.

I'm not sure what Clewett uses for his base wire, but mine have a cloth-like material on them (probabaly something synthetic), running the length of the wire, with the shrink wrap Clewett logo that DonE described. Maybe there's a Magencore wire under this casing? Not sure...
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another good trick to test for leakage is table salt water and spray bottle , the saltgive you a better path to ground!
That makes sense as I know that clean water is not conductive, some people think I mad when I tell them this
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Use an OHM meter to test resistance. Clewett should be able to tell you what the resistance per foot is, so do some simple math. Corrosion will increase resistance. On a wasted spark system like mine, resistance is important.
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+ 2 on the clewwetts- just instaled them on a 12 plug sys. VERY nice.
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are twin plug distributors rare and expensive or is there some aftermarket applications?
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