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Got my tach back...

Now I need to hurry and finish my car!
My gauge was the first 930 OLCD conversion.

what do you think? (sorry for the poor quality pic my DSLR is getting cleaned)



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WOW!!!! thats cool. I missed this thread whats the story behind this? How much $
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Let's just say you'll be one nut away from a unick.
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huh... when did you lose yours?
(I'm assuming or after the turbo conversion)

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A eunuch (pronounced unick) is a castrated man. In other words, it'll cost you a left nut.
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I don't know what your issue is ? I think the pricing is more than fare. show me another product out there this even come close for even twice the price? I have sold over 20 of these' s in the last 2 week and only had people ask me why I was selling them so cheep!!

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What was the price again for the one like the picture shows?
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But Brian, why not a right nut? Just playin...
That tach is pretty! What a hell of a way to bring life to an otherwise boring tach.
C2Turbo.. I think you need to get one of those in Eric's ride, that would be one hell of an advertisment.
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No issue, just humor.
From what I understand the gage and leads for the multitude of measurable parameters is ~$650. To me that's a lot of dough. I sell a few expensive items myself and am well aware of the shock to the pocket.

All that aside, you have a nice product.
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E-Man930..

Thanks for being the 930 Guinea pig and thanks for the posting the pic.

That answered one of the questions I had which was.. "does the gauge use the PLX Module" and yes, I see it in the photo... plugged into the stove!

I was just about to order a PLX AFR Gauge... the one with the digital read and the LEDs... now I'm torn because I can't figure out what to do with what will be a blank space in my Werks console!


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I guess I'll be a Crotchety Old Bastard too, but I maintain that if if you only have the gauge w/o any data logging (which provides real, usable, bit-by-bit data to tune) then = waste of money....

As a gauge in conjuction with logging, it is a neat idea, though pricey.
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WOW!!!! Tough crowd.... It is a very cool gauge. It can data log, and you can add on as may readings you want up to 32 readings. It has room for expansion, far more than any other gauge. It is clean. If you had to buy a Innovative wideband it would be about half that but still not as clean of a install and not able to expand without spending the same money or more. Some like it, some not. .02
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Nah.....'realistic crowd'
The gauge itself data logs? I don't believe so.
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I think the criticism comes from experience - if you have modified your 930 beyond, oh roughly more than 50-75+ HP over stock, you had better know your AFRs all the way up - at each 100-200 rpm point .

Been there. It will surprise you how off the AFRs will be, and a gauge ~alone~ will not be useful for this as the RPMs rise so quickly on a modified motor.
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No issue, just humor.
From what I understand the gage and leads for the multitude of measurable parameters is ~$650. To me that's a lot of dough. I sell a few expensive items myself and am well aware of the shock to the pocket.

All that aside, you have a nice product.

Are you kidding me? For something that is sold out of the box that is cheap. Hell, you couldn't update your gauges to 964 style for less that this gauge.

Just because YOU could make it for cheaper doesn't mean YOU could make it for cheaper for the masses and sell it. David is offering one hell of a product for a very good price. Give me a break, a quality AFR gauge (not your cheap wanna be versions) will cost almost as much as the conversion and you get a hell of a lot more than just a gauge.

You have any idea what we use to pay of for the old 934 Andial boost guage. LOL, that was worthless to boot.
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Nah.....'realistic crowd'
The gauge itself data logs? I don't believe so.
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I think the criticism comes from experience - if you have modified your 930 beyond, oh roughly more than 50-75+ HP over stock, you had better know your AFRs all the way up - at each 100-200 rpm point .

Been there. It will surprise you how off the AFRs will be, and a gauge ~alone~ will not be useful for this as the RPMs rise so quickly on a modified motor.
Craig,

You would have to ask David for sure, but I do believe there is a way to do this. Additionally I know the unit has inputs and outputs available on it.
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Just throwing it out there but as a newbie into the P-car world, I quickly realized nothing is "cheap" (cheap being a very relative term) for these cars.

However, that is not why I bought my car, I bought it to enjoy it....kinda like a hobby...and hobbies cost $$$ some more than others.
That gauge is very trick, I probably will not realize the benefit from it...yet.

Definitely applaud the ingenuity and initiative!!! Not throwing any stones just an opinion
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Valentines Day not going so well for you?

Read the words I typed.

Not one word about value, not one word about ME making it cheaper, not one word about ME selling it to the masses. Only a bit of humor about charging $650 for a gage and a comment on how I think it is a nice product.
My "cheap wanna be version" of an A/F gage is an LM-1. Last time I checked they were pretty good.
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If I were to buy an AFR meter gauge for my 930, this probably would be it.

Nicely set up, and certainly a lot of time and expense into it.
Unfortunately I have a NHS integrated voltmeter right in that location. In my opinion, an accurate scalable VM gauge should be a gauge one should have somewhere in the 930.

IF one could obtain an output from it and log the data........hotdiggitydog, that's the key!

OR

If it cuold be designed to hook into the Innovate.......there is your clincher, C2Turbo!
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Not trying to opine on the pricing here, but I'm not buying one because I consider it too expensive. That's just me. But since I don't have a tach with on-board-computer, it's totally out of the question.

I do like the product though. Top notch stuff.
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Valentines Day not going so well for you?
Funny concept V day is really. I treat my wife the same as if it was our first date 24 years ago. Since the 7th grade she is reminded how special I think she is. So yes, it is going very well.

Hmm, you were joking? Seems out of context for you. But ok.

I appreciate your opinion on AFR gauges, but I live or die by them so my opinion varies from yours. I have probably tested more units than you even know exist on the market. I am not spot checking or looking for an average. Tuning on the dyno means you are dead ass on.
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