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930 Curb Weight

Hi folks, I've searched around for info on the "official" specs for the weight of my 1979, but can't seem to find it. I have the Leffingwell 911 Buyers Guide book which says the '79 930 was btw 3000 and 3100lbs, while the SC was 2500 - 2600lbs. Is my '79 Turbo as porky as Randy Leffingwll says, 500lbs more than an SC of the same vintage? Jeezum crow! A brand new 997 is 3075lbs according to the Porsche website. Just curious as to what the reality is.
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The RedBook says the weight is a little under 2900 lbs for the 1979.
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2870lbs to be exact for 1978-1983
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87 930

2936 Lbs with 10 gallons of fuel

10 Gallons= 60 Lbs

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My 76 is 2660. Ruf f&r bumpers. And it even has a honking sound system with a monster sub.
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Can't recall exactly where I read it (owner's manual, perhaps?) but I think my '87 weighs in about 29xx lbs. I'm surprised the 997 is as light as Porsche says--less than 100 lbs heavier than my 930? With all those technodoodads and safety equipment? Does that weight include gas/oil/coolant/AC refrigerant/other fluids, battery, etc? It's a common tactic for sportbike manufacturers to list curb weights of 350-some pounds, sans vital fluids. Then a motorcycle mag puts the bike on its scales and finds the actual weight to a bit heavier.
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The standard Carrera is 3075lbs, the turbo is 3505lbs in coupe form. Let's compare apples to apples here.
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Please look at the Digital Radout on the Building. This is a Department of Transportation approved and callibrated scale.

My car is an '89 with 1/2 tank of gas, full A\C, full interior etc etc...on other words nothing removed.



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Porsche tends to give the weight of any particular year car as the most stripped down possible version of that car, and even then Porsche numbers, as we all know, are often enhanced in one direction or the other for various reasons.

For instance, my 76 is supposed to weigh 2630 lbs. from the factory. Mine still weighed more than that after I began a weight removal project. I checked the weight a lot on a scale similiar to the one Yasin pictured above. My car weighs less now, but I can promise you that no USA sunroof and AC version of a 930 will come even close to it's listed factory weight.

Putting in the sunroof required like 50 lbs of mods in the actual roofing structure of the car, and all 930's to the USA came with sunroof...AC adds 75 lbs.
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This is mine with a FULL to the brim tank of gas on the scales at Brands Hatch, must be near as can be to stock weight except no aircon compressor.

Comes in at 3044lbs
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I would tend to agree that a full luxo 930 should weigh around 3000 pounds.

My all option delete steel widebody SC with a 930 engine weighs 2720 full of gas. I'm sure you could eat up 300 pounds in a hurry by adding back the sunroof, A/C, power windows, etc etc.
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As I understand it, 930 tubs were heavier than SC tubs due to additional reinforcement.
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I haven't seen additional stuff on my 930 compared to the SC I had.

My 930 weighs 2650 with roughly 1/2 tank gas and full roll cage.
With 438 HP at the wheels, this makes for a nice power to weight ratio ;-)
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87 930

2936 Lbs with 10 gallons of fuel

10 Gallons= 60 Lbs

All fluids to correct levels
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Fuel is 6.2 lbs per gallon to be exact.

10 gallons would equal 62 lbs.
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Actually, the density of gasoline (petrol) is about 737.22 kg/m3.

1 LITER of gasoline weighs 0.7372 kg or 1.6253 lbs.

1 m3 = 264.2 gallons So 1 gallon weighs 2.7904 kg. 1 kg = 2.2046 lbs.

1 GALLON of gasoline weighs 6.152 lbs. (for reference, 1 gallon of water weighs 8.34 lbs).

One gallon weighs from 5.8 to 6.5 pounds, depending on the temperature when you weigh it.

Gasoline weighs about 6.1 pounds per gallon. Diesel weights about 7.1 pounds per gallon.

6.2 is just a habit from flying. I round up. I would rather factor in the marginally extra weight in fuel and be safe knowing I calculated the extra than being too light. Conversely, I allow and calculate for reserve flight knowing that heat and density altitude may play in the rate of expansion, consumption and performance on the fuel.
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And the weight of gasoline on the moon is ...

Ha! Just yankin' your chain.
I think for the purpose of this forum 6 lb/gal is close enough. The truck scales used to weigh the cars are not that precise anyway.
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Thanks Busa, I was actually going to look up the weight of gas to find out how much my gas makes a difference in the overall car's weight.

Filling up my gas tank makes a noticeable difference in how my car feels.
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Thanks for all the info gents...So I guess Randy Leffingwell's book is fairly accurate that the '79 Turbo is around 3,000 lbs. I also have to believe that the factory is optimistic about the weight of a 997. I'm guessing its dry weight (with helium in the tires )
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Your car has about 20 gallons full of gas. That is 124 lbs. between empty and full tanks.
You are a good driver to notice that relatively small change in weight. I can notice the difference at the track between having a passenger in the car which is a little more weight than that, but have not heard others talk too much on this.
I am surprised how off Porsche is with the stated weights in the owners manuals and spec books compared to when you actually weigh your car. Porsche is generally dead nuts about other specs like hp and torque figures posted.
Did they stuff lead weights into the cars headed over to America?
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Porsche has a rather odd history with regards to specifications:

1) They continually state HP on the low side
2) Weight is always under what any possible actuals could be

IE the 997 GT3 are 100-200 lbs MORE than the published wieght.
A lot of GT3 owners are a bit pissed - even the GT3 RS weighs 3251
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