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I've got the engine out to fix the oil leaks. Erik can testify to the leaks. I'm certainly buying a Tial wastegate and K27-7200S turbo because my stocker is ****. My question: should I buy the 930 tensioners or Carrera? I've heard from many praising each as better than the other. Which is it?
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:18 PM
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Nobody has an opinion?
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what year is the motor, I dont know much on the subject- what is the diffrence between them? I got my stockers in my car and they seem to work well
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It's a 1979 RoW with old style tensioners. I've heard people talk about how good the 930 tensioners are and I'm wondering if they are better than the pressure fed Carrera tensioners or not.
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If you're tensioners don't have oil lines running to them then git rid of them NOW.
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If you're tensioners don't have oil lines running to them then git rid of them NOW.
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Gotcha. I just remember a discussion about 930 tensioners being very good. Mine are the undesirable ones and I was just wondering which ones were the best. I am certainly upgrading while the engine is out but wanted more opinions on which way to go.

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I don't really have an opinion on which tensioner is better, but if you want to join the bandwagon I put Carrera tensioners on my '79 930
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L:et me know if you need a waste gate. Also I feel the carrera tensioners work wonderful
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Are you guys saying we can buy 930 oil pressure fed tensioners that are different to the carrera ones?
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Are you guys saying we can buy 930 oil pressure fed tensioners that are different to the carrera ones?
I don't what the difference was between the 930 and Carrera tensioners. Only that people were saying they were good.
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Carrera tensioner are the ones that were oil fed... typically used as an update on the 930 and older 911s when getting a service or doing a build.

The standard 930 tensioner is not a hydraulic oil fed unit.. it is good... but supposedly oil fed carrara tensioner are better as they are pressurized. I have seen some of those fail also, though not as many, and not with as disastrous results.

Of course with the standard 930 tensioner you can always add the locks to keep them from completely compressing if they fail.
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Hello,
I have an '85 930, it has the pressure fed tensioners from the factory. I always thought that when the 930 got the Hydraulic tensioners that they were the same as the Carerra, basically a convergence. If that's true, that should answer your question. I think you can look on Pelican and see if it is the same replacement parts for Carerras and 930's. I believe they are the same.
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Hello,
I have an '85 930, it has the pressure fed tensioners from the factory. I always thought that when the 930 got the Hydraulic tensioners that they were the same as the Carerra, basically a convergence. If that's true, that should answer your question. I think you can look on Pelican and see if it is the same replacement parts for Carerras and 930's. I believe they are the same.
Hydraulic tensioners were not available until the 84 model year with the introduction of the 3.2 Carreras.. (possibly 83 in Europe as they release ROW cars and upgrades earlier, however since I live in the US I speak about US Spec).. thus they are the same tensioner. an 85 930 would be a ROW car and would have these as an upgrade.. or as a superseded part #.. of course 930 owners in the US did not see this until 87 when 930s were again imported.

In essence if it's the hydraulic tensioner being addressed then the Carrera and 930 part are one and the same.

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Im starting to think there is no diffrence in the carrera or 930 chain tensioners. Maybe they just called them carrera tensioners because the carrera was the first one with them. So in 87 when the 930 got them; "the new 930 for 87' is updated with carrera tensioners...."
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Im starting to think there is no diffrence in the carrera or 930 chain tensioners. Maybe they just called them carrera tensioners because the carrera was the first one with them. So in 87 when the 930 got them; "the new 930 for 87' is updated with carrera tensioners...."

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Im starting to think there is no diffrence in the carrera or 930 chain tensioners. Maybe they just called them carrera tensioners because the carrera was the first one with them. So in 87 when the 930 got them; "the new 930 for 87' is updated with carrera tensioners...."
That explains it. Thanks guys, I know what I'm going to buy now.
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Ordered the Carrera update kit and turbo today. Waiting for Ben to reply to my email about the wastegate so I can get it ordered. Woohoo.
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I listed an intercooler on ebay that might interest you....
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Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. If the price ends up very right on it I may go for it but I am more interested in a drop in.
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