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martinb930 03-16-2008 04:01 PM

Name this part and its function and win
 
Greetings all:

I'm fishing around the engine compartment and open the case on the left side towards the rear. Relay's and fuses seem to reside. Sitting there all by itself was a yellow relay with a ground wire attached... 91161511800 but not plugged into anything and no apparent home. The parts list call it a mass air flow boost something... what is it and where does it go?

The winner gets a shinny new nickel.

equality72521 03-16-2008 04:08 PM

That is an over-boost protection relay. It cuts the fuel pumps when you over boost in a turbo car.

martinb930 03-16-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equality72521 (Post 3831786)
That is an over-boost protection relay. It cuts the fuel pumps when you over boost in a turbo car.


and it just lays there for no apparent reason? Not that I mind as the part costs $150... just checking.

equality72521 03-16-2008 04:15 PM

Should be plugged in the panel in the engine compartment on the left.

martinb930 03-16-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equality72521 (Post 3831797)
Should be plugged in the panel in the engine compartment on the left.

The wire attached to it is not long enough to reach the only socket that is in the vicinity... there is a red and black relay already occupying the sockets. The only available socket is towards the drivers seat (on the side panel) in front of the fuel pump and some vented electrical box (looks scary with warnings all over it) god I'm such a novice... so please pardon my ignorance.

equality72521 03-16-2008 05:11 PM

The yellow relay is for later turbos, the early ones used the red relay.

MT930 03-16-2008 05:17 PM

They are very expensive.

equality72521 03-16-2008 05:26 PM

Here is an early red relay:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1141586239.jpg

and here is a later yellow relay:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4222/mvc017s5lc.jpg

martinb930 03-17-2008 11:06 AM

My 930 is a 1986 (first year back to the states) are you suggesting that I remove the red relay and plug the yellow in?

timc 03-17-2008 11:11 AM

Relay
 
I have an 86, and mine is yellow.

fredmeister 03-17-2008 11:19 AM

I had heard that the yellow relay was to keep the CD box producing spark after the ignition was cut off for 30 seconds so that unburned fuel in the engine, manifold was combusted. Do you hear the ignition box humming for 30 seconds after the car is shut off?
Just guessing, but keep the nickel and use it towards a new relay they are expensive......

Fred

fredmeister 03-17-2008 11:21 AM

Mark,
I just noticed something, but your engine is missing in the photos, you ogt bigger problems than just the yellow relay, ha,ha.
Fred

equality72521 03-17-2008 11:42 AM

Neither of those pics are my car. However, my engine is out of the car. Mine is a 1979 with a red relay. Sounds like maybe 1986 was the transition year.

fredmeister 03-17-2008 12:00 PM

Just kidding with ya, I wanted to add some comedy relief to the forums becaus ehtye get too serious sometimes.
So what is the diff in function between the yellow and red relay?
Why can't you just run the cheaper one unless they add an extra function to the system?

equality72521 03-17-2008 12:06 PM

I don't know the answer to that. I've heard different theories but nothing conclusive. Some say the yellow one is a quicker acting relay since it has a pcb thereby doing some of the work with IC. Some say there is a reduction in arcing on the contacts. Some claim other functionality. I have never had the opportunity to look at the guts of a yellow one (not that I would understand it anyway) so everthing you get from me is from what others say. As a result, everything I'm saying should be taken with a grain of salt.

fredmeister 03-17-2008 12:06 PM

Another point to conside ris that not many of us are the original owners of our cars, so yo really don;t know what mods were made to the electrical systems or any other parts of the car for that matter by previous owners.
Moral of the story is find out what is supposed to be the function of the parts for your system, determine what is missing or there in your car, and then decide on how to cost effectively fix it.
The factory owners manual is a must read for do it yourselfers or have a good mechanic you trust tell you how to correct evreything.

Shadetree930 03-17-2008 12:30 PM

OK, Now you got me curious. 87 930 here. I have the yellow relay.

Mine swivels freely. Is it supposed to be locked into place somehow?

craigerz 03-17-2008 02:35 PM

So what do we win here?

equality72521 03-17-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinb930 (Post 3831778)
The winner gets a shinny new nickel.

a new nickel ;)

JFairman 03-17-2008 02:39 PM

My '87 has the yellow one.
I tried a red one to see if it would work and the car woud not start.

I took the yellow cover off and resoldered the solder joints and put it back.

I worry it will leave me stranded on the side of the road someday..

I'd like to know which pins to jump on the relay socket to let the car run if it ever fails.
Anyone know?


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