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Who has got a swap?

Well I kind dreaded posting this since its my first post and I dont to get flamed but...I was wondering who else has a non Porsche motor in their 911 to have boost? I have a street port 13b turbo out of an FC RX7 that I got out in TX. I know of some Subaru swaps as well but I just wanted to see them in pictures.

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Old 03-20-2008, 07:32 AM
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Hi,
And of course the obligatory 4" SuperTrapp!

Howz it run?
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Hi,
And of course the obligatory 4" SuperTrapp!

Howz it run?


Hehe well there isnt much room for anything else and with a streetport rotary anything to quiet it down is great. Its runs amazing right now and the gearing is perfect. The shifting is a little sloppy but I'm getting used to it. Boost at 9k rpms is crazy in one of these cars!
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Hehe well there isnt much room for anything else and with a streetport rotary anything to quiet it down is great. Its runs amazing right now and the gearing is perfect. The shifting is a little sloppy but I'm getting used to it. Boost at 9k rpms is crazy in one of these cars!
Do you have an Intercooler, looks like there is plenty of room for one underneath your new Ducktail YOU'RE GONNA PUT ON THERE!!
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Do you have an Intercooler, looks like there is plenty of room for one underneath your new Ducktail YOU'RE GONNA PUT ON THERE!!
Ducktail is on the list, and yes its a Garrett water to air I/C on the top left by the intake.
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JayG- That-a boy.
I bet that thing is a blast to drive when winding it out to 9 Grand. I havent heard of any subaru motors in these cars (I hate Sub. motors). But I have seen someone run a nasty 4G63 Eclipse motor (best motor) in an old school 911.
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JayG- That-a boy.
I bet that thing is a blast to drive when winding it out to 9 Grand. I havent heard of any subaru motors in these cars (I hate Sub. motors). But I have seen someone run a nasty 4G63 Eclipse motor (best motor) in an old school 911.
I have a buddy in AZ with a 3.3 Tribeca motor (boxer NA 6) and it does very well. Coming from my last car, a 350 whp Galant VR-4 (4g63) thats what made me look for one. Maybe eventually the rotary will be replaced with a 4g. Right now I think it does a great job. Certainly does a great job of ticking off the Porsche purists.

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Hi,
WoW, Interesting motor! How does it sound compared to a 911?
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We used to do a lot of VW tube frame based race cars, with transplanted 13b's, back in the early 80's. The Mazda engines flat out scream, and these were just n/a engines that we machined to accept Weber 48IDA carbs. I can only image the power you make from that turbo. Probably improves the weight distribution a bit also in the 911.

That Targa is more of a sleeper than my car.
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We used to do a lot of VW tube frame based race cars, with transplanted 13b's, back in the early 80's. The Mazda engines flat out scream, and these were just n/a engines that we machined to accept Weber 48IDA carbs. I can only image the power you make from that turbo. Probably improves the weight distribution a bit also in the 911.

That Targa is more of a sleeper than my car.
Pat
The car weighs nothing and that more than makes up for an torque loss. With the mods its around 330 hp at the flywheel so maybe high 290s...

If you search rotary 911 on youtube you'll see videos of the car running and going WOT.
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JayG- I had GVR-4 with about 300 horse for a daily driver. What a hell of a car.
It would never anger me that you swapped the motor. The porsche engine is downright to damned expensive for no reason and makes no power untill you drop a lot of coin. I just dont like the V8 swaps to me it = ignorance. I bet your rotary is lighter than our motors therefor improving the handling.
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JayG- I had GVR-4 with about 300 horse for a daily driver. What a hell of a car.
It would never anger me that you swapped the motor. The porsche engine is downright to damned expensive for no reason and makes no power untill you drop a lot of coin. I just dont like the V8 swaps to me it = ignorance. I bet your rotary is lighter than our motors therefor improving the handling.

Yeah V8 just doesnt make sense to me either. The rotary is about the smallest lightest engine that makes decent power. Also where its mounted helps out a ton. I'm gaining more andmore confidence with the handling every time I take it out.
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Yeah V8 just doesnt make sense to me either. The rotary is about the smallest lightest engine that makes decent power. Also where its mounted helps out a ton. I'm gaining more andmore confidence with the handling every time I take it out.
I'm thinking with the weight change you had to re-adjust the suspension because of Positive camber?
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yes, i suppose this is ignorance...600 chp in 400 pounds!
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yes, i suppose this is ignorance...600 chp in 400 pounds!


Awesome! But what I said was it wouldnt make sense for me as in what I do with the car. I autocross and hit the mountains. That would be pretty sweet on a big road course and a 1/4 mile though.
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yes, i suppose this is ignorance...600 chp in 400 pounds!
With the short exhaust pipes on that Beast, I'll bet that Big Dawg Barks!!
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