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Excellence values for 930?

Hi guys. I have decided to include a 930 in my search for first Porsche. Originally I wanted an SC, but I am tired of looking for the "perfect" one. The turbo has really grown on me!

I've found one with 90k miles (alot?) and I'm trying to find what I should pay for it. It has custom wheels and a fabspeed exhaust. Had the valves done 10k miles ago. No smoke on start-up or drips. Can anyone suggest what I should offer on it? Is there an Excellence value chart somewhere on the net? Thanks!

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There are a lot of different variables in pricing out a 930

How many previous owners?

complete records back to its birth?

Original engine, or rebuilt?

Year? (89 will bring a lot more, and 76-78 would bring less)

PPI Results (a PPI is a must!)


If its just your average 930, in good shape then $30-35K. of course it would be more for excellent shape, and less if it has issues.

Its odd how values for these cars dont really have much to do with how many miles are on them, but more to do with their history.
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John- Good questions! I think it has most records. 3- owner, 1987, original engine. Will do PPI!
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Since it is the original engine, you will need compression, and leak down values as part of the PPI. 1987 is a good year. 3 owners isn't too bad.

Rebuilding these engines aren't cheap at all! if you don't do any performance upgrades your still looking at $10-15K for an engine refresh, and that doesn't include labor.
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John- Ouch. That's what I was afraid of! Thanks for your opinion!

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It takes time to find the right one. I looked for over a year for mine. Found a dream 86 930 60K miles, all records from day one. No body work, stock engine, garaged its whole life. Now give me $40K and you can have her


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There are a lot of different variables in pricing out a 930

How many previous owners?

complete records back to its birth?

Original engine, or rebuilt?

Year? (89 will bring a lot more, and 76-78 would bring less)

PPI Results (a PPI is a must!)


If its just your average 930, in good shape then $30-35K. of course it would be more for excellent shape, and less if it has issues.

Its odd how values for these cars dont really have much to do with how many miles are on them, but more to do with their history.

I would agree, descent cars 87-88 are mid $30's

89's in good shape can bring mid $40's +

PPI is a must with these.
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Hmm. Weird. Posted a reply, and don't know where it went.

I think the 930 valuation article is in the October issue of Excellence, every year.

For your PPI, pick a shop that is familiar with 930s. I had a so-called Porsche specialist do the PPI on mine. I felt like there were times I knew more about the breed than the wrenches. Also pick a shop of your choosing. Don't go to the shop that services this particular car, if possible. The shop will have an allegiance to the previous owner--not you.

If the PPI checks out, is 90K miles a lot? It seems rare to find a 930 that's gone that many miles without a rebuild. And one of those will run you $15-25K if you have it done in a shop. But I don't know if that's so much wear and tear on the motor, or if people just get the modification bug going, and the while-we're-in-there mentality. Still, you don't hear of any 300K-mile cars that have never been opened up, unlike those type of boasts on the SC and Carrera forums.

Best of luck.
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Thanks Bman, MT!

Thank you very much, Noah. I think I'm going to look for something with less miles since a rebuild would be catastrophic!

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If the valves were done 10K miles ago, I think you are getting a safer car than a 60K mile one with valves ready to go (maybe).

Porsche bottom ends are strong. In unmodified form, 930s are really strong. As long as the car was maintained well, compression and leakdown numbers look good (to ensure rings are still sealing and cylinders are in good condition), I would not worry about the rest of the car. A well maintain 930 bottom end should easily go 150K miles, especially at stock boost levels.

My thought is, if you can get a good deal, PPI and your personal inspection check out - buy it and enjoy.
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Thanks Jurhip! Maybe I will reconsider the car if the price can go down to $28k...gonna try!

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Just remember, at that mileage there are other wear items that go in a similar fashion to all cars. Shocks, clutch, brakes, suspension components. A few questions and test drive should be able to weed these out. A PPI should also tell you this, but given the simplicity of these items, it would be nice not to spend the money to learn that the shocks have never been replaced.

If its close, I would definetly look at it.
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