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OK, I got a few questions. It's not that often that one gets to talk to a LEO who has a 930!

1) Did you ever run into someone you thought had a jammer?
2) What do LEO's usually do if they think they have been jammed?
3) Are Jammers effective?
4) Have you ever arrested or heard of a person prosecuted or arrested for a jammer?

The funny thing is that I've had my 930 since 1990 and have only received one ticket. I've been pulled over many more times. One time falsely, because my Zork tube convinced the Causeway bridge police in New Orlenas that I was hauling azz when I was really doing 58mph on the bridge. Most of the other times, the Police liked the car and only gave me a warning.

I was pulled over once for doing 150, but the guy in the Stealth I was racing was a LEO and after some arbitration he let me go. That was after he had to pull over and let me by at 135!
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First, I am actually a retired LEO now and yes.... I don't think the radar jammer will go over well if an officer figures it out. Not everyone has my sense of humor

I don't want it to appear that I think traffic enforcement isn't needed. I just feel that tailgating, unsafe lane changes, reckless driving, aggressive driving, failing to yield, etc. are all, IMHO much worse and cause tons of accidents and AREN'T enforced. This BS routine of writing a ticket to very car you catch XX miles over the limit is about taking the easy pickins', generating activity and in some small jurisdictions $$. When I first moved form NYC to the suburbs I was shocked at the policy of letting almost every speeder get plead down to a $100 parking ticket. Why do they do this, does this automatic plea bargainingit discourage speeding?? No, it's because the state gets most of a speed fine and the local municipality get most of a parker.

No, I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for a laser jammer this may be because.... as far as I know, they are legal in NY and the surrounding states that I frequent.

Just a thought, if you do use one you might want to consider quickly slowing down when it alerts/jams and then shutting it off so the laser operator will still get a reading. This way it would appear less like jammer and just that it took a few seconds to get a reading.

Funny story about you racing the cop. I recently had a Trooper pull me over for Speed/Zork sound and tell me he had a 951 and ask me to blast off so he could check it out. Most guys a real good, it is just frustrating when a few guys use no discretion and little common sense. I get the calls all the time from friends and their wives who get ticketed in their own small towns for very minor infractions, that could easily be handled with a warning. I think that coming from a different type of environment I just view speed enforcement way down on my priority as a LEO so my outlook is also different. I also know that many of the summons guys intetionally target Joe 6-pack, the Soccer Mom and the Businessman exactly because they are upstanding citizens. Why? Because they know if they target the vehicle or motorist that looks shady, they may end up having to make an arrest for suspended license, warrants, etc. and they don't want that. They want to write their summonses and go home on time, By stopping the "good guy" they do exactly the opposite of what a cop should be doing. RANT OFF...I promise this is my last post on this subject.
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If you need stealth please buy a Beltronics STI. Otherwise be prepared to loose your detector to cops armed with Spectre. Also, a laser jammer is required equipment in most areas. Lidatek is coming out with a new model early this year.
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From the Blinder video: The average officer writes 15 tickets a day"

Nice scare tactics...I call BS on this. 15 tickets a day?? Let's hope that never becomes the average total. That's more like the 2 week total for your average patrol guy. That is a month total for a guy who actually looks for REAL criminals , instead of wasting time writing soccer moms. Even Troopers or Highway guys write way less than that.... that is 2 tickets an hour, no freakin' way. There may be a few losers running around who write 15 tickets a day...they're the same guys whose lockers are in the corner and eat by themselves. Reckless drivers, drunks, passing school buses, write them all. The problem is there are too many guys who don't know that warn and admonish IS also traffic enforcement. Nothing ticks me more than someone writing a guy/gal on the way home from work or off to little league 5 miles from their house for minor stuff. RANT OFF
God I wish more officers were like you in their thinking!
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So far I have only been pulled over once and that was to tell me how good the car sounded. It has a GHL dual out with no internals in it
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If I had to use a radar detector- I would go with V-1, But I use "The Force" instead...
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"The Force"

Don't you have a Cloaking Device???


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Hahahaha,

The Force is a force to be rekoned with....
How ever the force can be broken by: passengers, crinkling rappers, bad music...any distraction.
Its just the knowledge of what to do, when to do it, and where to do it. You would be a chooch to rip on your car where there are open spaces with many trees- but if you wait for a nice stretch of road where there are gard-rails on eitherside where there are no suprises, you would then be using the force.
This is just a brief example of The Force.

The force has only let me down once and it was because the cop wanted to pull over a Porsche.
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Hahahaha,

The Force is a force to be rekoned with....
How ever the force can be broken by: passengers, crinkling rappers, bad music...any distraction.
Its just the knowledge of what to do, when to do it, and where to do it. You would be a chooch to rip on your car where there are open spaces with many trees- but if you wait for a nice stretch of road where there are gard-rails on eitherside where there are no suprises, you would then be using the force.
This is just a brief example of The Force.

The force has only let me down once and it was because the cop wanted to pull over a Porsche.

Heh, that's awesome Craig. I'd been withholding commenting on this thread as I'm in same school as you - runnin' nekkid, triple digit commuting, 15yrs + (pls save the preach 8-)).

Do I get pulled over? Sure, few x's / year some years. Tell you what tho, maybe 1% were ever for radar, or what's near 99% used here in sunny CT - f'n laser. It's all been visuals or the like, and I typically get out of them either roadside or in court.

But mostly, like you - just use the force. Use your eyes, pick your battles, use your HEAD.

I'd argue w/ Laser a detector might as well blurt out the dollar value of the fine you just got saddled with "BEEP BEEP BEEP THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY DOLLARS BEEP BEEP BEEP. D'oh.

OK, it *may* allow you to jab the brakes hard briefly IME, but typically that's just reducing the ticket your about to pay. I ran Passport Escort 4500 1000 years ago - if anything I like running 'something' as it's another piece of data to have onboard. Knowing when you went by a cop whether or not he targeted you is comforting, and then being able to look down and know "what he knows" so you can plan your impending dialogue accordingly heh heh.

Plus I switch between cars too often to bother. If I were to run one, the V1 is very appealing - but after reading here what I've read here on the 9500 likely sway me. Thanks btw F350Lawman for your insight on the Passport AND your rants on LE in general - I live f'n 3mi from the Sate Police f'n barracks, it's like pissing on a bee's nest. Sucks. Most of them are wicked d*cks on power trips, and employ all the bs you refer to. Lame. I screw with them back at EVERY chance - long story, but love watching them speed in town and reporting them. True story, once I followed one back to barracks after he rammed everyone off the highway going 120 (parked waaay far away), and witnessed him tossing cheeseburgers to his partners - no joke. I had a field day with that one and his superior.

Course last week, 3yrs later, Trooper Cheeseburger (as I've named him) bags me for my f'n TINT ($136 ticket btw, another 'not guilty plea heh heh) - lame. Different car now, so no revenge. Shows you what I'm up against here. If I don't get out of the ticket I'm sending happy meals to his office once a week every week until I get bored. Think I'm kidding? Issues...

Errr... sorry - end rant 8-).

Use The Force...
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Most guys are good, it is only a few who think any form of speeding is a MAJOR offense.

The FORCE is great, but I live in a fairly wooded, slightly hilly, curvey road area, (NY 's Hudson Valley) so it might be less effective here. I'll be honest, the consequences are obviously diff. for me so I am probably more careless than you. The 9500 stops me from 95% of the embarrassing situations. Laser is becoming more prevalent though, so the odds are getting worse. Neighboring NJ is already using alot of laser on the state roads, and in NY they are also becoming prevalent.
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It's funny how the Escort 8500 is so popular and almost nobody is saying a word.

I own three. One is hardwired into my son's WRX, my wife used mine for a trip to Chicago and never gave it back , so now I have one that I hardwired into my 930 and use the window mount for my S4.

A year or so back, Autoweek did their own test trying all the available units in their long term road test cars. The Passport was number one and the 8500 was 2nd or 3rd. The 9500 wasn't available then. I'm sure the V1 is on par, but not hands down better, just more $s.

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8500 is great, my friend who sells them say it's just about on par w/ the 9500i w/o the GPS feature. If you live in an area w/o alot of false alarms the 8500 saves you some $$.
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Valentine 1 for Radar detectors and Garmin for gps units.

as a retired member of the Ironbutt association, i can tell you that the V1 is used about 90%+ of the ironbutt competition members. The entry level into the Ironbutt Assoc. is 1000+ miles/24 hrs. When i used to compete on a harley dresser i covered over 1650 miles in 24 hrs. Also numerous 7 day 8000+mile & 11 day 11k+ mile competitions. NO TICKETS.

as for the comment about needing to speed, "I don't speed, i run with the flow of traffic"
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I think "The Force" still prevails...
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Thanks for all the input.
I still have my old, first production ESCORT from 1978, so I have an old school big black box receiver for my '73 when I want to display it. For real protection at speed and elimination of everyday false alerts I just ordered the new Escort 9500i with GPS feature.
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I think "The Force" still prevails...
Maybe that Jedi mind trick will work when you get pulled over.....

"Hi, good day. I pulled you over for doing 50MPH in a 50 zone." They say it works on weak minds however I'll defer to Lawman350 to advise how many weak minded officers you will come across.

I find most to be pretty sharp.
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