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View Poll Results: 930 vs Ferrari
Don't do it. Are you NUTS? 37 68.52%
Do it! Everyone should own a F-Car at least once! 13 24.07%
Do it and don't look back! 4 7.41%
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Time to move on?

I've been seriously thinking about selling both the '78 911 and and '87 930 and pick up one very low mile 348 TB SS Ferrari. Then in a couple of years buy another 930 to add to the collection. I just paid for a set of Lindsey wheels and did some major upgrades to the 930. The '78 is perfect with WORKING AC so it really doesn't need much at all. Is there anyone here that had one and came back to a P-car?

Don't do it! YOU ARE nuts?

Do it because we should all experience a F-car at least once?

Do it and don't look back?

Sorry guys. I just want to try something new. I'll probably kick myself for this but I've been known to learn things the hard way. The story of my life.....
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I say don't do it because you'll be looking for another 930 before long and the prices are going up on them. On the other hand, it sure would be nice to scream along in a nice Ferrari. I'm biased though, I've always been a German car fan and will always have an old Beetle or my 930.
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Horses for coarses but I think I would miss my 930 too much.

It sounds like your 930 is in great condition so why sell it and buy another in the future?

I would love to have a F-car for the occasional drive but I will always want to drive my P-car anytime I can.

Can you find a way to keep the 930 and get the F-car?

You are not nuts but many who stray from the P-cars and 930's find themselves wanting to return to them.

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Why don't you keep the 930 and buy the F-car? If you don't like the F-car, sell it to someone else, and if you do like the F-car, then you can sell the 930 later. If you are short for cash, then don't buy the F-car because it needs loads of cash to keep it running.

The only way to find out if the grass is greener on the other side is to go over there. Otherwise, enjoy the grass on this side. Life is not a consensus. Go with your heart.
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Why don't you keep the 930 and buy the F-car? If you don't like the F-car, sell it to someone else, and if you do like the F-car, then you can sell the 930 later. If you are short for cash, then don't buy the F-car because it needs loads of cash to keep it running.

The only way to find out if the grass is greener on the other side is to go over there. Otherwise, enjoy the grass on this side. Life is not a consensus. Go with your heart.
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There will always be a "better" Ferrari and an aloof owner to make you feel inferior. If you have a 246 Dino (a very nice car in my opinion), then you will be accused of owning an "entry level Ferrari" or not being a Ferrari at all. If you have a 430, then 599 GTB guys will look down. If you have an F430 Challenge, Enzo owners will snub you. Enzo guys lust after 275 GTBs. You will never win.

Porsches are more reliable and technically sophisticated than the older Ferraris. They are just as fast or faster. Have fun blowing by the Tifosi.
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Is that 348 TB SS a 12 banger Ferrari?

If so, hmmmmmm.... the sound....

But you will also hear the sound of a black hole in your wallet, from everything I have read.

I just checked the oil in my 964t, and after about 2000 miles, it needed 3/4 quart...oh yeah.

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I wouldn't give up a 930 for anything less than a F360 or 430 even, not sure how the $ would stack up but if you could pull it off...

The 911 Turbo is my favorite car ever ever, and I used to think F-cars were stupid, then I had the chance to play in a 360... different but WOW.

I might add we had to clean the passenger seat when my female passenger exited, although it wasn't #1 or #2...
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I would save up a little longer to keep the 930. Good luck on your decision.
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Remember, if you ditch the 930 and get an F car, we'll never speak to you again ( just kidding)..
I'd worry about servicing those things , my buddy has one and it breaks just sitting in the garage...
oh, and ask Wayne...
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Borrow rent or steal a Ferrari for a day and get some seat time! You could always get a part time job as a valet at an establishment that Ferrari owners frequent
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I looked at a 348ts before I bought my 79 930 last year. The 348 was maybe $10k more than the 930, but it just didn't feel as good as the 930. The 930 has a better driving position and is way faster. On top of that, the 930 will be more economical as far as servicing. I like to think of the 930s as everyday supercars that can be daily driven.
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Despite the fact I vote normally to stay Porsche, do it to get it out of your system. You'll get turned off to it after the first few months wear off, and when its in the shop, but its a good experience.

Most are reliable cars, but when they do break, be prepared. A blast to drive but don't expect as much in terms of raw visceral feel as you get in the 930, two very different breeds.

Good luck, and do what makes you sleep well at night.
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While I understand the want to experience Italian lust, I can't agree with the particular scenario you pose.

If you had said F355 we'd be having a dialogue. Granted they're much more dinero. But, they drive _FABULOUSLY_ and sound even better - def. something every car nut should experience... I highly recommend it 8-).

I'm just not a fan of the 348tb/s's... too Testicleroaster wannabe with the side strakes, they're overly dominating on such a small car. And the performance... you'll be left wanting coming out of a 930. Sure, the sound is great and they handle amazingly, but they lack torque - again - esp. coming out of a 930. You'll get your straked doors blown off by new Altima's. As noted the driving position is quintessential EYETALIAN - not good. And the major services are mind numbing.

Here's a thought - sell the '78 and find a 308GTB or a Mondial Spider (don't ask - I've always liked them even though they're not performers - topless 4 seat mid engined Italian fun), or possibly a 328 (starting to stretch). They all can be had relatively 'affordably'. I didn't want to like the 328 until I drove it, it's a hoot.

The Italian should compliment your 930 not replace - unless you do it "right" (355 / 550).

Heh, and Flieger's diatribe I found quite funny! That's hilarious on the Fcar owner syndrome. Too much...

So, I say stretch and go F355, or stretch less and swap the '78 for Mondial or 308. And those noting the current 930 market about to go up make a great point.

Drive a bunch, report back. That may get it out of your system enough just in itself - it has for me - the best Italian car is SOMEONE ELSE'S! heh heh heh...



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I haven't heard of anyone being really happy with a Ferrari older than a 360.

I'd like to have one someday, but it would have to be in addition to a P-car.
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Thanks everyone! You've given me lots to think about.

Since I've never been in one I'm going down to a gathering in Detroit on Sat. Hopefully, I can at least swing a ride in one. I think this trip will be the decision maker for me.

BTW: My wife and kids think I'm crazy too.
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I haven't heard of anyone being really happy with a Ferrari older than a 360.

I'd like to have one someday, but it would have to be in addition to a P-car.
huh? that is interesting. i don't consider anything newer than a testarossa a real ferrari!

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Thanks everyone! You've given me lots to think about.

Since I've never been in one I'm going down to a gathering in Detroit on Sat. Hopefully, I can at least swing a ride in one. I think this trip will be the decision maker for me.

BTW: My wife and kids think I'm crazy too.
Please consider keeping the 930 and instead of getting a 348, look into a 512 testarossa. the 348 will leave you wanting more and is quite intense to maintain when compared to a 930.

i would suggest you look at a properly serviced tr as it is VERY different than what you have now and VERY different from the 348. it also represents the best value in a true ferrari and will become your special occasion machine. the price of entry is a bit more than the 348 but the experience is vastly different and pictures will not do the tr justice...you must experience them in the flesh!!! don't expect it to be faster than your 930 (what is?) but do expect it to leave your knees weak and wanting to smoke a cigarette!!!

the cost of ownership of a tr can be quite expensive and a proper ppi is a must but still no guarantee. i have two ferraris in addition to my 930 and i can tell you my $20k transaxle story if you have the stomach to listen!!! that said, i would never sell my 512 bbi but likewise...i would never sell my 930. simply nothing to replace it with.

both the 930 and the 512 boxer are similar in that they really do represent the last of the breed!!!

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Bill, keep the 930 I think I've seen yours and they don't get much better. For a guy in Michigan this is a nice problem to have, good luck whatever you do.
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Agreed with Pete on the TR - there simply is *nothing* like experiencing a flat 12 @ full song. Nope. Titallating!!!

Another car I did not want to like - the looks are just too garrish / Miami Vice. But then whomp on one to redline, and, well... as Pete mentioed... pass the ciggy - and I don't smoke! The ergonomics are a disaster, the nose is light, but oh that music - esp. mit Tubi!!! - ohohoh!!! Heh heh...

If you shop right you can find them in the high 40's / low 50's. Problem is, who knows what you'll be getting @ that pricepoint. Be a scary proposition for me certainly. Price of entry for a low mileage car goes up considerably from there.

Once again - drive a bunch and report back 8-)!
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