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Porsche Crest Big HP 930 Chassis Roll Call - All motor types single/twin 993tt's 964tt's

Okay, just to see what's out there, it seems as though most of the big HP junkies are scattered about...

I'd love to get a thread with all the current big guns lined up, no offense but I'd like to see what's still on the road.

The point to the thread is to see the different ways of getting insane hp, but hp that matters, not just dyno queen numbers. I'm talking drivable torque and power curves.

I personally love to see the various intercooler setups, clutch combos the innovation and trickery like GJF's car displays...ya'll get the point.

Its not about who's got more, its about seeing the machinery and products of the countless quantities of blood, sweat and tears.

Let's do it this way:

Motor displacement:
Redline:
Turbo setup (single/twin & size):
HP/TQ:
Wheel/Tire Size:
Miles driven:
Things you'd do different:
Things you like most about the project once finished:
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Cura ut Valeas,

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Old 07-09-2008, 05:15 AM
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I only have one turbo but I'll chime in:

Motor displacement: 3.4 (98mm 7.7:1 JE pistons w/Pauter rods)
K27HF2, Carrera intake and TB, 25x10x4.5 intercooler, Motec, twinplug, B&B exhaust, 3.5" burns muffler.
Redline: 7500
HP/TQ:475/400
Wheel/Tire Size:255/315, 9/11.5x17
Miles driven: not many
Things you'd do different: not use a centerforce clutch
Things you like most about the project once finished:Power, idle, off boost power
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:53 PM
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All turbos welcome twin and single...that launch is SEX nice work on the car.
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Thought I would revive-I have many of the same questions.
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My old setup was:
3.3 single t-4 turbo
6900 rpm- should have been 7500
put down 496 through a spinning clutch
9" wheels 255 tire width
dont remember miles
I would have made sure the rpm rev limit was higher- would have made sure I had a $80K+/year paying job...
The absolute biggest regret I have is using the 3.3 motor as a base. If I could go back I would have sold the 3.3 and start the project with a 3.6 n/a motor and convert that for boost
I may have gone twin turbo from the start
I certainly would have left the stock fuel system alone.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:50 PM
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Motor displacement: 3.4L
Redline: 6800
Turbo setup (single/twin & size): single GT35r
HP/TQ: 520/502 at 1 bar
Wheel/Tire Size: F 235/40 ZR17 R 285/40 ZR17
Miles driven: dunno - over 20,000

Things you'd do different: sell the 3.3, build a 3.6L like Kris, go CDI from the start, twin turbo, backdate to a 73 RS type with duck tail and stupid HP

Things you like most about the project once finished: the satisfaction that each time it starts or slides under power, that I built it with the advice of some great people - listen to the proven experts
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Since she's actually running...

Motor displacement: 3.8 ltr
Redline: 8,200
Turbo setup (single/twin & size): Twin T4 Hybrid
HP/TQ: 634rwhp/605rwtq 1 bar
Wheel/Tire Size: 10.5x17F, 315/35/17 - 13.5x19R 345/35/19
Miles driven: 2,800
Things you'd do different:
  • MOTEC EMS
  • ITB's
  • More attention to finish of motor parts
  • Exhaust from turbo out that is 25% larger than exhaust housing
  • Inconel exhaust with rear mounted turbos
  • Bulletproof Fuel system from the start
  • Gear dependant boost so the triple plate clutch doesn't lunch itself, also to avoid wheelspin in almost any gear at any speed at 75% throttle
  • 800 lbs springs in rear with no Tbars
Things you like most about the project once finished:
  • Evil Wheelspin
  • Motor sound and rev'ability of the lightweight PP & Flywheel setup
  • Huge tires = sex appeal
  • Xenon headlight conversion
  • Flat black paint and race car body
  • Coil overs and no Tbars
  • 6 point harnesses & removable steering wheel
  • Centerlocks

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Motor displacement: 3.2
Redline:7800
Turbo setup (single/twin & size): Single
HP/TQ:675@28psi
Wheel/Tire Size:245/17
Miles driven:8,000
Things you'd do different:

Install a limited slip from day one, spend the $ on a good clutch, lower my expectations.

Things you like most about the project once finished: Power on Demand
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Motor displacement: 3.4 ltr
Redline: 7,200
Turbo setup (single/twin & size): Twin T4/T3 Hybrid
HP/TQ: 721rwhp/680rwtq
Wheel/Tire Size: 9x18F, 255/30/18 - 12x18R 315/30/18
Miles driven: 5K+
Things you'd do different:
GT2 Evo cams not aggressive enough for my taste with current car weight
Ceramic clutch
964 oil tank
I had a set of Paul Newmans 935/77 backup bodywork but ended up going hybrid street 930S. I still think about the 935 bodywork after Gabriels animal.

Things you like most about the project once finished:
Severe acceleration
Motor sound and manners of drivability.
This car is as timid as they come and as Violent as you would never expect
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Gab- How are you scavanging your turbos? Are you gravity feeding them into the lower valve covers or did you do a pump of some sort? Your setup is the way I wish I started out by going 3.6 n/a motor instead of 3.3 turbo motor.
Oh and what did you do about a fuel system?
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Gravity drain, yup! Goes into the valve covers and everything is going great.

Thanks for the kind words.
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can you tell us a little more about your motor build?? a 3.4 thats a pretty simple internal setup to be making 720rwhp!!!! is that on 93?? or much higher octane? what type of boost to you run to achieve that?? don't see too many 3.4 making more than 550rwhp or so.. that is amazing!!
and when you say current weight of the car, where are you at?
thanks
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can you tell us a little more about your motor build?? a 3.4 thats a pretty simple internal setup to be making 720rwhp!!!! is that on 93?? or much higher octane? what type of boost to you run to achieve that?? don't see too many 3.4 making more than 550rwhp or so.. that is amazing!!
and when you say current weight of the car, where are you at?
thanks
Simple????
93 pump
1.4 -1.5
550 is a very easy target, Not with CIS and fixed timing but EFI and improved intake and properly selected components.
a little over 2400lbs now.
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i didn't mean that in any way derogatory statement, i'm sorry if i came off like that, i just meant, upgrading to 3.4 is one of the more simple routes in internal change, it doesn't involve a different crank, just Piston and cylinder change, it just seems like alot of the big HP guys run different cranks or more displacemnt, i think thats awesome because its a straight forward conversion in internals! i would guess that you upgraded to H-beam rods, do you still use the stock 3.3 turbo crank? or do you have something more trick in there? did you run the 3.2 intake setup when you converted to EFI?
It sounds to mean like your making up the difference between what most guys make and where your at, using boost levels alot are afraid to run! I respect that! thats what turbo's are about more boost! my mechanic says if you like alot of boost the 3.4 setup is the best setup for cranking it up!

Got any pictures??? I would love to see your beast!!! and Kudos for having a sick car with sick sick power!!!
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Motor displacement:3.6
Redline:7200
Turbo setup (single/twin & size):Twin K16/24 hybrids
HP/TQ:502/528 at 1.0bar
Wheel/Tire Size:Will be on Ruf classics in the next couple of days with 285-40-17's and 255-45-17's
Miles driven: This engine has done 45.000 miles with a higher tune, it's way under-stressed as it is. It's done maybe 5000 miles since fitted

Things you'd do different: Would have never thrown stupid money at the 3.3 engine, got ripped off, do your homework people, there are cowboys out there. What i would have different with the 993tt lump? Spent the money on the 520bhp RS Tuning kit, designed to give you the FULL 520BHP even when doing 180mph+ for hours down German Autobahns. A 700+bhp 10 second chassis dyno run doesn't really count for me, apart from maybe 1/4 mile times.
I like having around 400bhp from 4000rpm and it holding over 500 up to the red line

Things you like most about the project once finished: This 993tt engine is awesome, starts and runs as you'd expect, has all the safety Porsche fitted to prevent it blowing up, 60 to 130 the same as an Enzo! What isn't there to like, and i can go WAY further!

Things to think about: It's never ending, it's not just about getting more power, you need the whole package. And when you're done there is always further to go. I repeat "it never ends"!! Fun though!

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[QUOTE=tarheelturbo;4820690]i didn't mean that in any way derogatory statement, i'm sorry if i came off like that, i just meant, upgrading to 3.4 is one of the more simple routes in internal change, it doesn't involve a different crank, just Piston and cylinder change, it just seems like alot of the big HP guys run different cranks or more displacemnt, i think thats awesome because its a straight forward conversion in internals! i would guess that you upgraded to H-beam rods, do you still use the stock 3.3 turbo crank? or do you have something more trick in there? did you run the 3.2 intake setup when you converted to EFI?
It sounds to mean like your making up the difference between what most guys make and where your at, using boost levels alot are afraid to run! I respect that! thats what turbo's are about more boost! my mechanic says if you like alot of boost the 3.4 setup is the best setup for cranking it up!

Got any pictures??? I would love to see your beast!!! and Kudos for having a sick car with sick sick power!!![/

The motor needs to be designed from the ground up to handle the power not just a P&C change. The stock cranks are extremely strong, they just need a little massaging. I run Carillo rods. And I use a severely modified 3.2 intake. It really can't be called a 3.2 intake with all the work I've done to it. I would put my 3.4 up against most 3.6's anyday as far as low speed response but I have plenty time and $$$ spend in the heads. I run Carrera heads with 52mm I/ 44mm E valves. I feel 98mm or smaller is the best for high boost as the cylinder deck is wide and gives more surface area for sealing. The larger the bore the more the heads and cylinders move around, the smaller bores are more stable IMO.


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Does anyone have documentation of the 964 oil tank install into an earlier chassis. This might be the missing link to my TT application. Love the setup you guys have.
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Jp - I think we documented it in Matteo's thread. Tidy solution, use the 993 fill pipe for easier install.
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gjf- looks like jewelry from underneath!! Well when i get closer to building my motor i would love to pick your brain.. must have gotten it all right to make that kind of power on any air cooled flat six! Period!

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