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Big tires!!!

Well I put on 255/315 combo on the car and man, did it change things. The turn in over the almost stock setup(225/245 Hankook RS2) is great. The car went from a neutral/slight understeer all the way to what feel like slight oversteer? Car feels great though, I just have to think about turning and it's done I really like the way it responds.

I am going to the track on the 19th so I have some gettin' use to coming.
The Nitto-NT-01s are VERY sticky as well....even on the street I can tell that it is possible to brake and corner much harder now.

I can't wait for the 19th!!!

By the way, no tire rub front or rear, without rolled fenders. My only change was removing the headlight washer fluid resevoir, which my 225s hit anyway. FYI, my suspenion is very stiff and ride height is probably sub-euro ( we just tweaked it a few weeks ago and I haven't remeasured) so your mileage may vary.
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What track?
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PDA DE at Pocono Double Infield. Really a good comparison as I was just there 2 weeks ago with my old setup.
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Cool. I am trying to get my car reassembled so I can take it to Sebring on Aug 2-3. If all else fails I will bring my 944 back there. Too much fun not to go with something
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Lets see some pics!!!!
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What wheels are you using?

What's height front and rear?

Pictures, pictures...
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That's also the same tire & sizes that I run, and couldn't be happier. 28 heat cycles so far, and they feel just as good as when they were 10 cycles in. Also don't need too much to get to temp. I feel them working well by about the third corner. On my car, I have had good results running at around 34 hot front, and 35 hot rear. My car weighs 3000 lbs w/ full tank and me in it.

And, pictures, please!
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I just searched for a picture of those. Wow are they aggressive! I'm assuming it doesn't get driven in the rain...

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Actually, drove them on their maiden voyage from Detroit to Mosport in heavy rain, tracked in the rain for the first day, and also got caught driving to and from Nelson Ledges in the rain. Not bad, but certainly not great. Better than I thought though.
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What wheels are you using?

What's height front and rear?

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Kodiak 17X11.5 and 17X9.0

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Yes, Kodiak wheels courtesy of Jeff, Very nice, here is a photo that doesn't do them justice. This was right after install when we were checking for rub. The rims were still full of dried soapy water from the install, chalk marks, no center caps and the wrong lugs...but you get the idea.

I actually like the no center cap look with the right open lug nuts, but they look much better after bath and on something better than a camera phone!

Oh, and no makin' fun of the smiley face my mechanic drew on my widow or the magnetic logo my 11 year old threw on the car while we were at the local pizzeria Monday night car show!!!

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Picture no load....... Maybe try taking the spaces out of the file name.
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That's also the same tire & sizes that I run, and couldn't be happier. 28 heat cycles so far, and they feel just as good as when they were 10 cycles in. Also don't need too much to get to temp. I feel them working well by about the third corner. On my car, I have had good results running at around 34 hot front, and 35 hot rear. My car weighs 3000 lbs w/ full tank and me in it.

And, pictures, please!

Are you starting around 27/28 and gaining about 7lbs.????
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Nice pics, I never saw them assembled, only in pieces....

Good info about pressures, I am about to run my first day on my Nitto's in 2 weeks.

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I like the chalk mark look , looks mean.
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Are you starting around 27/28 and gaining about 7lbs.????
I think so. I will check my cold tire pressures when I get home tonight, and cross reference them with my track notes. How much camber are you running? I'm at about 2.8 front and 2.5 rear. I also run the Elephant ASP setup, which reduces the need for big static camber on the rear. Haven't checked temps, as I have no tire temp probe, but the car loves these tires. They feel faster than my Kumhos.
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Garen, what do you think of the ASP's? Are they worth it? Did they affect your lap times much?
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Nathan,

I like the car with the ASP. I don't have a lap timer, so I can't document quantitative gains, but I can tell you that I see higher revs on corner exit, which essentially means I'm going faster. Some of that may have to do with switching to Nittos (from Kumho Victoracers), as well as just more seat time for me. The car is also very well planted, and correcting oversteer is more controlable now. The best comment I have received was from our driver's ed chair, who said the car does not act like an old 911, and that there is almost too much grip for the hp He mentioned that the car acts neutral - I have a stock engine, and it makes .1 bar less than stock boost, so it's not the fastest 930 out there!

A local Pelican has the setup on his Carrera 3.2, and he sees actual lap time improvements. What is also nice is the range of adjustment. I felt that I could achieve my desired camber and keep toe settings where I want them. Also, when you couple it with the quick change torsion bars, ride heights are a breeze, as are re-index jobs.

Overall, very happy with the setup.

F350Lawman, sorry for the mild hijak, but I figured it kinda relates... I'll check my pressures and post tonight. Nice wheels!
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F350Lawman, sorry for the mild hijak, but I figured it kinda relates... I'll check my pressures and post tonight. Nice wheels!
Don't worry..I do it all the time and thanks for the tire pressure advice. I have to check my camber settings. Last I remeber my wrench said we had it at a fairly aggressive street setting..whatever that means???
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Cool. I did check the pressures, my fronts are holding nicely at 26psi cold, but one rear was at 15! The car's currently on jack stands, so if there is a leak, I have not noticed yet. I have to check on that!

I do adjust them per track, though, and depending on the track, I may end up with different cold pressures side to side. I shoot for even pressures per axle when hot, which means that my cold pressures might be a bit different.
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