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That is horrible, sorry to see! What power were you running on those stock rods?
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Oh man, Serge, what a bummer. Extremely tough luck. "Sorry to see". as Jonathan said.
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Omg

Jez..I just logged on and started to read this thread. I wanted to write that I love the work you did on the tail. Great job. Then I read on and saw the last page. what a shame.

There are quite a few tricks to building one of these turbo engines and keeping them alive for awhile.

pm me if you need or would like any advise.
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A such little thing responsible of this desaster......







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Ouch...my eyes hurt looking at your damage! That just plain stinks. So, was it the rod bolt that failed or did the nut backed out causing the destruction? Sorry about your engine.
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Stock rod bolts??
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Gtu935, Bill could you please help us out with a few tricks to keep these turbo motors together? These pics scare that crap out of me. I am currently building a 3.6 liter turbo motor. Stock rods but ARP rod bolts. You built a motor for my friend Cleve a few years back and he speaks very highly of you. Thanks, Tate Askew
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GOOD LORD!!!

What kinda boost were u running???

Sorry..........................
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Jez..I just logged on and started to read this thread. I wanted to write that I love the work you did on the tail. Great job. Then I read on and saw the last page. what a shame.

There are quite a few tricks to building one of these turbo engines and keeping them alive for awhile.

pm me if you need or would like any advise.
Thanks for your help....as soon I'll rebuilt my new engine, you'll be sure helpful....


Yes, the only problem has been the rod bolt failed....and you ca hear it at 11'27" on that video.....




The boost was only .85 bar

And anyway, I wasn't very fast because of the new tires I didn't know.....
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I feel your pain, it is a terrible experience to have such a catastrophic failure. I hope you rebuild, better and stronger, Bon Chance!
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Ouch....that hurts!!! Painful.
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GOOD LORD!!!

What kinda boost were u running???

Sorry..........................
More like; what RPM's were you running at?

Sorry to see the love of your life in such disarray.

The pic looks like the failure is due to a busted rod bolt. Were you using stock rods and rod bolts?
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Hi Dave, yes rods and bolts were stock......I don't know how much kilometers the engine was....as it was the second engine I was using ( waiting my original one wich is a 930/66 S, the one i'm upgrading..)

When the engine broke, I think I was running around 5 to 6000 rpm......didn't notice really....
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The Rod to hell with....PAUTER.......


I finally decided to get those ones, considering price and avalability......and also....the shape wich seems to be a little better for flewing in air and oil.....


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Good to see you've not lost your sense of humor
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I've a question, what type of rods and bolts were used in the photo's of the catastrophic failiure?
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See post #73.
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Here are some pictures.......Stock vs PAUTER....










Stock bolts are 6.8 mm VS 8.2 mm for PAUTER......and the length and principle are more reliable on the PAUTER rods....




















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very sorry to see this, yoiu've obviously worked very hard to get to this point. Consider it an opportunity to make the car even better! Best,
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Hi Thomas, yes, that's the way I'm going on....it's time to work on may old project....my 930/66 upgraded...3.5 twin plug.....may be ...twin turbo....


Somme more pictures of Rod....!!!!......































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