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Porsche 930 Twin Plug ??

Can anyone tell me anything about this car? Is this a deal? Thinking about buying.

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Nice car if you can stand the color. Get a PPI and call Bob Holcombe about the car not a bad price. The intercooler is an Andial/Garretson which is a plus, add for the rebuild with the good stuff in there Carrillo rods etc, HKS EBC it looks well sorted and runs great even idles really well. Good luck, your title is sort of misleading you would probably get more feedback with a thread title like looking at this car. Oh by the way the Tach is pretty cool as well.

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Thanks for the input, color is bad! It would be sent out for paint if I buy (Black)
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Whoa, I missed that can you say dreaming!
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Call me crazy, but I sort of like the color. There is a guy who posts here frequently (Miguel, I think) who has a sweet looking brown 930. I dig these old disco era colors. Its period correct! But hey, if you buy it, paint it however you like. If it checks out ok, its a good deal IMO.
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if it wasn't metallic i would love the colour, these things are on their way back in.

mcl motor sports has a cayman S in dark brown metallic and i love it.

hp estimate sounds high. people who havn't been in other fast cars always over rate.

the local vancouver civic club (my daily) has told me some of the hugest #'s (say 200hp/L) i've ever heard of, then i get in the car and it wouldn't touch my 275hp 911...
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Wow..that car is very nice and beautifully presented and the price is a S-T-E-A-L!!!

As a 930 owner take it from me, if you bought a stock 930 in decent shape for say $22K and had to pay for these upgrades, you are looking at an easy $20-$25K incl. the wheels...(if not more!)

If the color is to your liking, I would NOT hesitate. Bob Holcomb is the man BTW!! His work and reputation speaks for itself.

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That color is neat. Black Porsche's are like red Ferrari's. Good color for the car but other colors are nice to. If I were to buy it it would stay as per the kardex, color wise. The performance upgrades will soon have you lovin it just as it is.
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Definitely a DIY'er. Crankfire ignition probably an Electromotive HPV-1 or later. Microfueler probably an Andial boost enrichment system. Finding a Tech to work on the engine setup will be more effort, but if you are technically inclined, it's not too complicated. PPI definitely in order. Check with the DMV about registering Grey-market car. When I moved back to the Midwest from Boston with my '85 Slant, there were a few more steps I had to take to get it registered. Sometimes frustrating, but didn't cost me anymore money, just time and mileage.
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Micro fuelers tend to be 7th injectors ( fuel into the manifold in addition to the in port injectors ) . Some people poo poo them. I have a similarly built motor with the micro fueler and it is spot on 11.8 to 12..1 AFRs right where it needs to be rich @ 1 bar. This car is a deal if it is up to spec.

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But, does the fuel injected come from the WUR? IOW does it lower the control pressure rather than make up the AFR due to extra fuel from the injector?
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See photos for injector. The fuel line is from the fuel head and the vacuum to the waste gate controls the electronic injector cycle. Injector can be changed for AFR requirements. Inside the exhaust temp is monitored on this car. Old school stuff but seems to do the basic job of overall fuel enrichment on boost.

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It's possible it may be getting fuel from the control pressure side of the WUR.
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The unit is made by Callaway Turbo systems High St Old Lyme CT USA 1-203-434-9002. It is Model#10844 if you need to know more details. It has fuel pressure to the electronically controlled injector from one of the unused portals on the fuel head ( which, if my memory serves, was originally adapted from a 8 cylinder capability). The 7th injector, as seen in photo, sprays directly into the intake air flow, just after the inter cooler.

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Ah, well that rules out it lowering the control pressure then.

I guess you've heard all the negative comments about unequal amounts of fuel to each cylinder with a setup like that.

I've seen nitrous injected into a 3.6t motor with one injector, they also have to inject fuel as well. I'm guessing here but I s'pose that if nitrous gets favoured towards one cylinder then so does the fuel needed to go with it.
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Like I said it came with the car and seems to work fine.If Bob Holcombe used a microfueler back then, well it must not be to bad. Not an exact science as some suggest and I suspect for track use a guaranteed exact equal amount of fuel from individual matched injectors would be preferred. The effect of this system would be similar to that of a carburetor. Anyhoo back to the original topic that car only got 21K on ebay. I hear some say on this site that they are looking for a good deal. I would not let color vanity and beauty concerns cloud my vision on this one. Paint is only metal deep,and 930 should be,for the most part, the drive. I have not heard anything negative about it except the color ( not red or black) & dated wheels. Oh well maybe I will just have to get another one.

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Well, the raw chit colored 930 will be delivered Saturday AM. I did some thorough research and everything comes up peachy. I would have paid 35K for the car and considered it a great deal. I payed asking price and I feel was a steal. This is my 5th one, but 1st 1980. Car will be on dyno Monday AM. Engine was heavily worked on by Doc from 930 Doc. A highly respected no b.s. modder. The engine is bulletproof as attested by how perfectly it has held up over the years. Previous owner is a stunt pilot. I know David and he is proactive in taking care of his toys. Owner before hand (for 14 years) is one of the most highly regarded PCA members in the country. None of previous owners play games – I fully expect the car to perform better than stated. As is sits right now turning 3.5 sec 60’s at .07 boost is a warm up – just time the shift in video. Will run a little rich at 1 – just as it should – perfect. Manna from heaven ☺
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Congrats. I checked it out and felt the same as you about its upgrade history . I like, have & have had, unusual color 930s. Lots of people think they are plenty neat. Pls post the dyno results and how you like it. I really would have liked to have pulled the trigger on this one. Not to often do they come up for sale like this. Is it 3.4? If the color really gets to you rather than take it apart for color change mabe we can work something out. Check my website www.voitureltd.com for a regular color 930 as a option.

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