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A friend of mine who restores Porsche's professionally uses an aerosol spray found in most automotive paint stores. It is neither flat black nor glossy but satin. Does an excellent job of matching. Used it on my brake vent strakes and they came out great.

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Looks like they came out great. I wouldn't look at them twice and think that they were redone...
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Thanks, Dave and Kilo. I will post pictures once they are done and back on.
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Hadn't seen pics of these before but the old argument of wooden slats verses composite always comes up with both sides digging in. I know mine are composite and as we have just seen 1986911's are as well. Right now on Ebay is a conversion kit for adding the brake duct vents. This kit while pretty crude has wooden slats.



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My car is an 89 and the slats are 100% composite. I know some earlier years had wood.
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Hadn't seen pics of these before but the old argument of wooden slats verses composite always comes up with both sides digging in. I know mine are composite and as we have just seen 1986911's are as well. Right now on Ebay is a conversion kit for adding the brake duct vents. This kit while pretty crude has wooden slats.
I have looked at numerous slantnose cars, both here and in Germany and I have yet to see wood slats. I've owned several at this point and all have had composite slates.

The ones pictured I would thik were probably copied in wood considering the rest of the actual duct appears to be fiberglass.

Kilo, I just love that car of yours btw! Unusual color combo and 505.

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A friend of mine who restores Porsche's professionally uses an aerosol spray found in most automotive paint stores. It is neither flat black nor glossy but satin. Does an excellent job of matching. Used it on my brake vent strakes and they came out great.

That's the stuff I've used.. and yes, it works very well.
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I digress briefly to the topic of wheel center caps. On my '88 with color coded wheels the center caps are color coded as well but without painted crests. I really prefer the look of the painted crests but can't really tell from pictures if they are simply painted or are an insert. It also appears that the painted crests from the factory do not have the two holes in the center for removal. Can any of you with original painted center caps please provide me with a close up photo a little better than this? Also does anybody know if their was an option code for them?
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Kilo, my 89 has the painted crests on them. From the looks of them they were on there since day one. I had the wheels redone and the caps painted over to match. From what I remember they were painted on and not inserts, I have some pictures of them. Before and after. If you look closely at the ones on the lift they did not protrude from the cap. You can also see two holes for the removal tool. I also included one off another 89 factory slant (red) that odly enough does not have the holes and looks like it protrudes a bit. They are body colored wheels though.

The only thing I could imagine is that the body colored (not black) wheels had different center caps if ordered with painted crests.

I looked at my CA and found no listing for them and no listing in my sales brochure either.

The mystery continues.............





At one time, you could get/order factory center caps with painted crests on black, or body color fuchs. There was also the option of enameled crests which were recessed into the caps as pictured below..

I kept these when I sold one of my cars took them apart to paint & match body color as they had been on the previous car.

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onboost thanks for the kind words....So those are the caps I need to try and hunt down! Me thinks that this could be a tough task

The more I come back and look at them the more beautiful they look...
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Wow, those caps are sweet.

That explains the the different post in the center of mine. Onboost, can you check the back of your caps to see if they look like mine?


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i have the same caps on my BBS rims and i don't think they are snug enough, the last owner put tape around them to snug them up, but that does not seem tight. how are you guys getting these to fit snug. I put a post on the 911 forum and one suggestion was silicon.

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Just went to our hosts page:

Porsche 911 & Carrera Miscellaneous - Page 20

That clears it up. Mine appear to be the hand painted one and the inlaid one is just above. $95.00 per cap for the inlays ouch!

Pricey but beautiful.
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Those aren't the old factory pieces like in onboost's picture but a new design.

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If you look carefully there are subtle differences. These look a bit closer in contour and the price is cheaper if they are still available.

Porsche Crested Wheel Center Caps | Coloured Porsche Crest | Wheel Cap & Porsche Wheel Badge

Not sure they are factory pieces though either.
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Wow, those caps are sweet.

That explains the the different post in the center of mine. Onboost, can you check the back of your caps to see if they look like mine?
Yes it appears to be the same. The triangulated post appear to hold or mount the actual cap to the metal backing while only the upper and lower middle holes take the stud from the crest. The most center or largest hole is empty on mine where-as it appears to be used on your cap.
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Those aren't the old factory pieces like in onboost's picture but a new design.

Boothe Designs | Center Caps

If you look carefully there are subtle differences. These look a bit closer in contour and the price is cheaper if they are still available.

Porsche Crested Wheel Center Caps | Coloured Porsche Crest | Wheel Cap & Porsche Wheel Badge

Not sure they are factory pieces though either.
I'm not sure either, I didn't know that anyone else had them and I always been worried about loosing one and not being able to get a replacement.

Also, I do know at one time Boothe sold factory replacement center caps of the normal style..(no inlaid crest) and offered hand painted ones as they still do.

I'm not sure what deal Boothe has with Porsche, but you can believe its significant if he's offering these items with their blessing. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made under license by the OE manufacturer as Porsche does not just bless "hard core knock-offs" just because you paid them a royalty.. especially something that proudly displays their trademark. Think about it.
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My thoughts exactly. I quickly learned how protective they were when we were directed to update our PCA region logo to delete anything that closely resembled the crest or a specific vehicle.
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Also, I do know at one time Boothe sold factory replacement center caps of the normal style..(no inlaid crest) and offered hand painted ones as they still do.

I'm not sure what deal Boothe has with Porsche, but you can believe its significant if he's offering these items with their blessing. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made under license by the OE manufacturer as Porsche does not just bless "hard core knock-offs" just because you paid them a royalty.. especially something that proudly displays their trademark. Think about it.
I have known Ralph Boothe since the 80's. He is a really unique man. He was the first to design and build the turning wheel caps. The logo will stay upright to the eye as the wheel spins. He told me in the early 90's how Chrysler stole his idea and it would of cost too much to sue them.

It reminds me of the movie Flash of Genius with Greg Kinnear.
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I have known Ralph Boothe since the 80's. He is a really unique man. He was the first to design and build the turning wheel caps. The logo will stay upright to the eye as the wheel spins. He told me in the early 90's how Chrysler stole his idea and it would of cost too much to sue them.

It reminds me of the movie Flash of Genius with Greg Kinnear.
Yes, I remember him from the 80's as well. Ordered a number of items from him. Hey, remember his octagon shaped Gruppe-B center caps? I did a few sets of those on cars back in the day!
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Yes, I remember him from the 80's as well. Ordered a number of items from him. Hey, remember his octagon shaped Gruppe-B center caps? I did a few sets of those on cars back in the day!
Yes I remember those!

I use to see him out at Pomona 7 times a year and I would see him at PCA OCR and Grand Prix regions in So. Cal.

Interesting man.

He also use to build special parts for 911's and has some of the parts on an early 911...if he still has it. I haven't seen him for a few years now.
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You could upgrade to the European H-4's.

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