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Thanks! I love the color on yours...is that chiffon?

One more thing I thought of. I was able to obtain a copy of the EPA certification when my car was imported in 1985. They keep records of these things and will mail you a copy! In my photo link the car was noted as a "935S" which indicated it was a slantnose when imported. With these cars, the more evidence the better! I'd try to get a copy.
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Awesome and thanks again for the great info! I have the BAR certification but not the EPA paper so will get that and see how it's listed.

Yes mine's Chiffon.
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One thing that is true.. in the early days 80- roughly 83, it is very hard to say what was included from the factory given what an owner or whomever ordered the car specified on their wish list. Many of the items used even for production 930's were sourced from other models... and some pieces were even out-sourced. Paint to sample was also a very hot item at the time

For instance, the single motor and related mechanism for the pop-up headlights is actually from the 928.. and we know that in Europe, the 928 arrived in 82.

G60SC.. the center console you show in your car is actually a DP or Kremer unit.. and Porsche and both these firms did a lot of work together in those days. The IC looks to be a Garretson or PowerHaus full bay.. something that it would have gotten after it reached these shores.

Again, in the early days of the slant, you pretty much could have gotten whatever you wanted to pay for.
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One thing that is true.. in the early days 80- roughly 83, it is very hard to say what was included from the factory given what an owner or whomever ordered the car specified on their wish list. Many of the items used even for production 930's were sourced from other models... and some pieces were even out-sourced. Paint to sample was also a very hot item at the time

For instance, the single motor and related mechanism for the pop-up headlights is actually from the 928.. and we know that in Europe, the 928 arrived in 82.
Onboost, this is exactly the answer that Porsche and Marc gave me when I asked about the headlights on my car. Again, not confirming or denying anything.... 🤦🏼*♂️
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Thought I'd Chime in. I have posted pics of my "unmolested" 82 Hammerhead. Getting any HARD evidence on these one-offs is nearly impossible. I have posted of my issues with mine. The original owner is still alive and we are still searching for more paperwork. I was told by Porsche classics division reps just what onboost said, it was the wild-west at Werks I. Maybe build sheets some day, who knows.
Mine was imported specifically under a "racing only" title. Due to headlight issues, mainly, it was not considered "street legal" by US DOT. I personally have never seen or heard of one with dual pop-ups. The vents are a completely different issue. Sorry, in my research and opinion, it may be factory but added after (possibly by the factory) the model 82 year.
Yes, I have gotten it from more than one source at Porsche that only 10 were built. Again, mine was originally ordered to race with the thought that the hammerhead added some aerodynamic edge to the car. Other than the hammerhead, it had very little in the way of options as it was going to be stripped to track. Luckily, never got to the track!
Yes, again. Parts were sourced from other places than WERKS I. Speaking to the factory reps in Germany, I was told the valance was fabricated off-site, one at a time. These are fiberglass and Porsche did not have the factory set-up to do this work (at least in 82). This caused a huge backup in the order to delivery time. I've gotten various answers as to how the fenders were fabricated. The 2 most popular answers: 1-"coke" bottles were cut out, new metal welding in, polished then fitted to the car, 2-(my most likely thought)that each set had to be hand fabricated from a "buck" as they made so few they didn't have a model to "stamp" the sheet metal. I think this as the profile is much wider at the bumper than a stock 930. With the amount of work involved to cut, weld, finish...would be easier to hand hammer as so few were made. This was a VERY expensive option. From order to delivery, mine took 9 months to fabricate.
Just my opinion. I know the issues with getting hard documentation. This one would be WAY ahead of the 82 I have as the vents came along later and the pop-ups don't make sense. You can look back to the photo I posted of mine, dual headlights both sides. Porsche reps confirmed in writing that this is how the 82 was built. Certainly not saying not factory, but it's going to have to be documented out the wazoo for me to believe it. Good Luck in getting your paperwork, you'll need it!!
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Apologies for this being my first post, but I've registered for this forum specifically for this thread.
If a 930 turbo was sent to Porsche between 1987 and 1990, for upgrades would it only go to Werke 1 and Zuffenhausen under the Special Wishes Program? What if a car was getting engine modifications using 934/935 parts? Would this involve the Weissach Motorsport guys?
I'm right in thinking that Weissach dealt with customer race car repair/ restoration, does anyone know if specific price lists exsist like the special wishes catalogue?

Apologies if I'm in the wrong area, there is just a lot of great info in this thread, please redirect me if there is a more suitable topic?
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My understanding is that Weissach is utilized strictly for research and development for Porsche and other manufacturers (under contract). My visit to the complex in 1986 revealed extensive work being done on the 959 and future C2 and C4 vehicles (no photos permitted of course).
Any repairs and/or modifications to customer cars (incl. race cars) were done at Werke1 in Zuffenhausen. Any options requested through the Special Wishes Programme would be scheduled and completed at the repair facility (Werke1).
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My understanding is that Weissach is utilized strictly for research and development for Porsche and other manufacturers (under contract). My visit to the complex in 1986 revealed extensive work being done on the 959 and future C2 and C4 vehicles (no photos permitted of course).
Any repairs and/or modifications to customer cars (incl. race cars) were done at Werke1 in Zuffenhausen. Any options requested through the Special Wishes Programme would be scheduled and completed at the repair facility (Werke1).
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Cool, thanks for the reply. I spoke to someone who was also there during the 80s, someone who worked there, and he said the same, but did note than even a road car would require some kind of Weissach involvement when the subject of 934/935 parts is mentioned, as he said customer race cars made their way to Weissach not Zuffenhausen . Is there a resource available somewhere with more detail on Weissach/special wishes/Werke 1 etc?

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Interesting thread. Just found it. Here's a shot of mine. '88 Targa genuine 505 option car. Might be for sale. I guess its sort of a unicorn. Didn't realize that when I got it.
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Please, can someone bring some light into this 88, targa, slant??
I agreed with the owner, very rare indeed. how many they built??
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According to Norbert and Franz who have done a masterful job documenting all Porsche air cooled turbos in their book. "Porsche 911 turbo Air-cooled years 1975-1998 there were 9 88 turbo targas made with option 505 all came to the US.

9 more were made and imported to the US and Canada in 89.

I would say they are quite rare and valuable.
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Only 2 Special Wishes 930/935 in SouthAfrica

Hi every one, my name is Stuart and live just south of Johannesburg, South Africa.
I have owned one of only 2 Special wishes cars in South Africa for 20 years.
This car is very special and has featured in a few TV adds years ago for a local petrol company called Sasol.
It has a very powerful engine from Porsche that produces 400Hp. I had it tested on a dyno at M&R motors (Porsche service specialist in JHB) and it put out 389hp on the back wheels. I have a list of the options that were done and the badge on the glove compartment of the guy that the car was built for.
Can any one help me identify and get me more info on what was done by the factory. Werk 1 looks like you are very knowledgeable on the abbreviations.
Oh, it is a 1984 model and is stock standard form the factory.




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Thanks so much. Is there anyway to find out more about the upgrades done to the engine?
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Yes. PM me your email and ill see what I can do.
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Hi every one, my name is Stuart and live just south of Johannesburg, South Africa.
I have owned one of only 2 Special wishes cars in South Africa for 20 years.
This car is very special and has featured in a few TV adds years ago for a local petrol company called Sasol.
It has a very powerful engine from Porsche that produces 400Hp. I had it tested on a dyno at M&R motors (Porsche service specialist in JHB) and it put out 389hp on the back wheels. I have a list of the options that were done and the badge on the glove compartment of the guy that the car was built for.
Can any one help me identify and get me more info on what was done by the factory. Werk 1 looks like you are very knowledgeable on the abbreviations.
Oh, it is a 1984 model and is stock standard form the factory.
Afraid I can't be much help. The technical source that I used at Porsche kind of dried up. What I would suggest is you contact Porsche Classic at the address provided below. Also, provide as much information as possible, such as;
Chassis I.D./VIN
Engine serial number
Transmission serial number

I would think that any internal engine mods by the Zuffenhausen techs would be based on the engine serial number, cross referenced to the chassis. Same would be applied to the transmission that would have different gearing than the standard offering.

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Good luck in your search. Do you have any pics of the engine compartment?
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I am not quite sure, whether it is the right place to tell the slantnose-world:
I have bunch of photos coming from Porsche exclusive, back in the 80s. My uncle gave them to me, but I think you need them more.
On these 162 photos (about 15 of them coloured) you see many detailed views of the blank body, or during assembly. Specifically slantnose details. True treasure for you, I guess.
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Hugo,
What a treasure trove of photos. Very generous of you to think of us. Do you happen to have the negatives as well?
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What a treasure trove of photos. Very generous of you to think of us. Do you happen to have the negatives as well?
oh, yes. sorry. forgot to mention this. of course!
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