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Tire Recommendations?

I realize that the audience here on the Turbo forum isn't as large as on the Technical side. But you guys will better understand my predicament due to sizing issues (as opposed to the Technical forum, where I'll get about 37 tire recommendations for sizes that don't exist for our wider-tired cars). Looking for a canyon carving street tire, which may see some occasional DE use. Wheels will be a set of 17-inchers, in 9" and 11" widths. I'm thinking of 245/40/17 or 245/45/17 for the fronts, and 315/35/17 for the rears (as I can't find any non-race tires in 285 or 295 widths).

Looking at Tire Rack, Discount Tire Direct, Edge Racing, and Tires Easy, I've only found the following tire brands/models that fit the above sizes. Any recommendations?

Kumho Ecsta XS
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Sumitomo HTR Z
Nitto NT555

Sumitomos are the cheapest, at around $400 for a full set. Goodyears are about $1000 a set. Kumhos are a little less at around $800. Do you get what you pay for? Any FHE?

Any other tires that are still available that fit these sizes/criteria?
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:41 PM
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Noah,

I just got a set of kuhmos in those sizes last week. those damn thing stick like glue, very soft. They are suppose to be as good as pilot sports. 6/32 thread new. I had Dunlops before and didn't like them. the ride isn't too bad. the 315 are about 3/4" wilder then the Dunlops

Hey you are in LA right? Are you going to the new years's drive? I might go, so you could check them out.
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I've previously posted on the 17" BFG T/A KDS tires I have on 9&11.5 Kodiaks. The tires are huge and stick pretty good. If I keep the wheels I will go from 245/45 down to a 245/40 as the fronts are too tall for my application. The 315/35 rears are just huge at one full inch wider than the 315/30 Pirelli's I have on a set of 10.5x18 Roocks. Again, too tall for my application but work well for other folks.
These tires are quiet and stick good. Never run in rain so don't know about that. Fitment issue is my problem but thrown in there as FYI in case your car is lowered.
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I ran Kuhmos on my 911SC with no issues.
I have Sumitomos on my car and they just might be the best tire for the money available. They have nice linear response and are very sticky.
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I have the Eagle F1 GS-D3 as my street / rain tires. Very happy with them. A fellow driving instructor had used them as his "primary track" tire on a 993 for a season and also very happy with grip & longevity.

My selection criteria (for street tire) was... rain performance as I don't burn rubbers on the street nor street race. Being safe in iffy wet weather is more important for me. JMHO.
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I realize that the audience here on the Turbo forum isn't as large as on the Technical side. But you guys will better understand my predicament due to sizing issues (as opposed to the Technical forum, where I'll get about 37 tire recommendations for sizes that don't exist for our wider-tired cars). Looking for a canyon carving street tire, which may see some occasional DE use. Wheels will be a set of 17-inchers, in 9" and 11" widths. I'm thinking of 245/40/17 or 245/45/17 for the fronts, and 315/35/17 for the rears (as I can't find any non-race tires in 285 or 295 widths).

Looking at Tire Rack, Discount Tire Direct, Edge Racing, and Tires Easy, I've only found the following tire brands/models that fit the above sizes. Any recommendations?

Kumho Ecsta XS
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Sumitomo HTR Z
Nitto NT555

Sumitomos are the cheapest, at around $400 for a full set. Goodyears are about $1000 a set. Kumhos are a little less at around $800. Do you get what you pay for? Any FHE?

Any other tires that are still available that fit these sizes/criteria?
If you want actual performance stats, the goodyear and kumho will take it, especially in dry weather. But those differences are not always worth the price difference depending on your personal opinion. Sumis tend to be heavier than other tires in the class. I consider that a performance disadvantage. Two or three extra pounds per corner.

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Sumis tend to be heavier than other tires in the class. I consider that a performance disadvantage. Two or three extra pounds per corner.
I just checked Tire Rack and you are right.
Sumitomos are cheap enough that I wouldn't feel bad about tossing them in a couple of years if I wanted to try Goodyears or Michelins.
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noah,

you have a PM
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Happy New Year to all of you guys.

I have tried them all - but the GY - (255 & 315 x 17combo) and for the money can't beat the sumis, unless the 1/100 sec/lap is important to you.
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