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"Porsche's Biggest Bargain..."

Hi guys, here's another thread on why we think the 930 is undervalued. I apologize in advance for the low rez scans (you need good eyes), but here is an article from Octane magazine - a UK pub, but they seem to like Porsches, this one is a big article about the 930 - more like an ad for this particular one for sale, but nonetheless an international thumbs up for our cars...






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Porsche's biggest bargain - continued

here is the rest of the article. If you like this, I highly suggest ordering a copy - there are a few other Porsche articles in this issue.



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awesome! Thanks for posting that. Went to their web site, but they still have the Feb. issue listed for sale. As soon as this one is up on the web I'm ordering it!

Just more Porsche and 930 stuff to read, then collect dust, but I cant resist.
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It may still take awhile for just conversation ( Pi$$ing contests ) about really great sports cars to progress to experience. Most every time a regular 911 or many other makes drivers are fortunate enough to ride in or drive one of my 930s, the response is usually "where have I been to not know about these cars ??".
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I am biased just a little bit but I think it is the most exciting and also most IMPORTANT sports car ever made. How many engineering and safety features have we gotten from the 911 turbo series? Turbo technology, ABS, airbags, AWD, traction control all perfected for sports car use by Porsche. And how much fun?

I have owned muscle cars and they certainly can give you whiplash but they simply lack every other element that makes the 930 a real world weapon.

And when you set up a 930 the way Ferry Porsche intended to before the braintrust at Porsche headquarters jacked up the price and filled it with luxury items, you have a car that is light enough to keep up with anything from the last 30 years even with relatively close to stock engine builds.

Everything about the car reeks of quality build. And with modern tires the car is still as dangerous looking as ever, and the body never rusts if kept in a garage. No need for bondo.

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Great article

Thanks for sharing. I feel the same way... hopefully the "others" will catch on at some point and are cars will skyrocket in price making it even more fun to own one. I won't sell. Will you?

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Thanks for sharing. I feel the same way... hopefully the "others" will catch on at some point and are cars will skyrocket in price making it even more fun to own one. I won't sell. Will you?

Bryan
If you don't plan on selling than why worry about the price?

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[QUOTE=DDDD;4470623]If you don't plan on selling than why worry about the price?

I have felt that way for some time. A good reason to get extra (s) while they are still cheap.
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I would be happy to see the concours ones selling in the 50-65K and the rest getting into the 40Ks. That would preserve some value but take away any more excuses to be gouged on parts.

And yeah they are still the bargain of the century, but that is the point...if they get more expensive they won't be the great deal anymore.

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Thanks for posting.

I don't think I can ever sell mine.

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I`m never selling mine took me this long to get it....

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Thanks for posting.

I don't think I can ever sell mine.

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I'm there with you Mike. I'm too old to even consider selling mine. It would have to be an extreme emergency. Never say never, but in this instance never sounds pretty good.
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[QUOTE=DDDD;4470646]I would be happy to see the concours ones selling in the 50-65K and the rest getting into the 40Ks................. Your happy days are here. See my post today of mid $40s for a not so perfect lo mi 930 and check out the 2009 Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale results.
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Dddd

DDDD, I meant that when the prices go up it would make the car more fun to own since 1) I already bought when price was low and 2) they would be more appreciated wherever you go since the value would increase their awareness.

Thats all, I hope you get a good deal on your 2nd purchase but I am hoping they continue to rise in value. There cant be anything wrong with that.

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I too wonder why the 930 isn't more sought after in the Porsche world. I read the "Market Reports" in Excellence and they say that the 911 Turbos have a small but loyal following and folks that like them usually LOVE them. The flipside is that most Porschephiles DON'T like the Turbos. I have no idea why.

The only reasons I can see that folks wouldn't like the Turbo, (IE, these are reasons I've actually heard):

1. The Four-Speed transmission
2. The driving characteristics, (not torquey down low, have to rev it, then when you do, BAM! Lightswitch Power.)
3. Fear of "stereotyped" higher maintenance costs.

I can't see why anyone WOULDN'T wanna own a Turbo. I broke my Porsche Cherry on a 930, and only afterward drove a Carrera. I was less than impressed. The 930 was everything the 911 was, and that much more.

And I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually LIKE my "luxo-barge" 930 with all the trimmings.
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The 930 was taken over, in part, by the wannabes that bought just for image. The standard Porsche affectionadoes considered themselves above the fray of the 924,944.928, 914 even though the 930 was none of them and in most regards a superior Porsche to the the non turbo ones. That they were luxo'd up by the brain trust as DDDD mentioned earlier also helped to sour the "purists". I doubt they can seriously miff the 930 forever,especially if they spend any time at a race track. Also it was the time that do da was added to some cars design but they are mistaken to think that form did not follow function with the 930 as with the 911.
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My personal experience: I buy my first 911 in 1999/2000 it was '71 911T coupe. I was always fall in love in classic 911. Everything produce after 1973 was over design, over weight etc. Even more difficult was accept US version with huge bumper rubber and rear spoiler. But 930 is like other world. Everything what was over design in 911 is perfect in 930 design.
So first :930 is perfect balance in design and look

Till month ago when I bought my first 930 it was only nice look Porsche- nothing else.
I expected that it will be faster, more power full, agresive.
But first experience change all my opinion about Porsche cars! It is best Porsche ever drive. With this power all over RPM , turbo lag,sound and unexpected silence. (I was so suprise that 930 is much more quiet than my 911S!)
Just perfect car. Of course luck of ABS,PSM or anything like that give you just real super car experience that you culdn't get from any new 997 cars.
930 is just like it Porsche should be. It is real racing car for street use.
So now I have problem to share my emotion between classic 911S and 930 but I think both cars with the same origin but develop in different direction can give exaiting experience to driver.
For me 930 is underrate but it will change. I remember what it was with 911S form 1969-1973 or better with 911 RS - in 1999 you could find RS for 50-70 T$ today you know the prices... The same will be with 930 , even now I see what is going on in Europe last 3-4 months . In last year it was several 930 to buy for 22-29 TEuro most expensive reach 50-55 TEuro, today you find not too much cars under 30 TEuro but average is going to be 40 TEuro. Best cars asking price going even up.
So looks that market for 930 will be growing up.
Why still 930 is underrating is also coming from lack of knowlage what exactly this car is. Like me till first drive it was just wider and more power full 911 but is is much more....
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Tommy...great post, especially this: 930 is perfect balance in design and look

That is what I love about the 930 body shape (originated on the 1973/74 RS). It is in a perfect universe all to itself. And the car has a few flaws compared to modern cars which can mostly just be tuned out but it is a design that is still devestating 30 years later.

Bryan...I am sure the value will be way up in ten years, I just want to collect my cars first...lol.
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Great read, thanks for posting.

I srsly dunno HOW on earth ANYONE in their right minds could ever not like one of these cars. How anyone could consider their self a 'true' enthusiast and not appreciate these for what they are is beyond comprehension.

If you cannot, well good then - it's better off that "YOU" *don't* own one b/c then you'd just be giving the car / owners a bad name. Ignorance is bliss... just too bad it ain't painful too.
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