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Anyone ever had their clutch pedal snap in two?

Was in the middle of an awesome drive yesterday, when clutch pedal went to floor.
I carry a spare clutch cable for just such an emergency, but when i pulled on the clutch pedal, it came off and if found this under the floorboard



I know my clutch is stiff, but jeez, the car only had 80,000 and while i drive it hard, i dont abuse the clutch or anything. Would worn bushings resulting in off-angle forces with each clutch pedal motion cause this? Anyone else ever have this happen? If i get another stock pedal, will this happen again?

Also, is the clutch pedal/ cluster for 930's the same as for 911's? The pelican website seems to have parts specifically categorized for either, the 911, 911 and 930, or 930 alone, and there is no pedal or cluster rod for the 930. Thanks

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Holy crap Batman! Pretty strange place for metal fatigue. I bet you could get that welded up right-nicely, vs. buying a new pedal.
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Wow...

When I bought my car, the clutch was ultra stiff (which was a problem). Mechanic found that whoever did the prior clutch work failed to lube the throwout bearing IIRC. Anyway, my mech found that my clutch pedal was bent due to the excessive force that was required. I think he was able to cannibalize a pedal from parts in his boneyard. Maybe your car has had similar issues during its life.
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Holy crap Batman! Pretty strange place for metal fatigue. I bet you could get that welded up right-nicely, vs. buying a new pedal.
Mark, do you think even a good weld would hold in this spot?
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WOW... Talk about having a lead foot
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Mark, do you think even a good weld would hold in this spot?
Yeah, I think it would. A good weld is usually stronger than material being welded...or so they say.
As long as you've got it all apart, why not try welding her up? All it could do woud be to break again....and leave you stranded somewhere
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WOW... Talk about having a lead foot
LOL!

I looked at the pedal cluster on my SC and they pretty much look the same, except for the spring, which has the adjuster bolt on the 930 seen in the above pix. i have a line on a pedal cluster in good shape from an SC. Can anyone tell me if the SC pedal cluster is pretty much a 'plug and play' replacement for a 930 one? Considering all the wear and tear on my present cluster, though i would just replace it and rebuild the old one at my leisure.
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Same thing happened to me in like '94 or so in my Karmann Ghia. I just went to the backyard parts beetle I had at the time and robbed yet another part from it. Thats not unheard of. It's the pedal that sees the most movement.
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Juicersr: They aren't the same,Turbo has its own part number and there are 3 shaft numbers. I had to replace them on Cristine a few years back,also had clutch peadle arm reinforced.

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You can have the welder "sandwich" it across the break if you want.
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I know my clutch is stiff, but jeez, , i dont abuse the clutch or anything.
Juicer, I just looked you up,, you're a registered clutch abuser in the state of N. Carolina. In fact it said you've even abused under aged clutches...
You'd better come clean dude!!
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Juicersr: They aren't the same,Turbo has its own part number and there are 3 shaft numbers. I had to replace them on Cristine a few years back,also had clutch peadle arm reinforced.
Yeah, i suspected as much. Do u think it's ok to weld up, then reinforce with the sandwich plates? Any pix of how u 'reinforced' it? Cant seem to find new one listed on pelican

Anyone got a spare they want to sell?

Todd, LOL! Add it to the list of things i abuse!!
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Contact Dave at TRE. Don't use the old one it is metal fatigged . Start with a new or a good used one, gusset in the bends, replace rollpin with solid pin and replace clutch cable.It has to be for 79 Turbo, hole in shaft and arm set up the right geometry to pull the cable.

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Thanks, will do.
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Looky here what I found...Its just dusty, it has about 10 track days on it after a complete rebuild with a kit from our host (receipt included.) I removed it only because I needed a 964 pedal cluster to accomodate my G50 conversion.

For Sale...





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Damn dude was this in the 934?
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Damn dude was this in the 934?
Yeah, i think there is a racing pressure plate in her or someting, as it is one of those 'clutch is either in or out with no in between' deals. Obviously puts a helluva lot of stress on the clutch pedal. Just glad it didn't happen going cross country!

John, thanks but i think i have a line on a real turbo pedal cluster.

U guys with stiff clutches may want to check your pedals and maybe reinforce the bends per Turbo934's reccomendations. Better than being stuck.
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I had the same thing happen to an '84 928 that I used to own. Got a replacement from 928 International.

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you may have a crack in your clutch fork.i broke two pedals and made two engine drops before i found the problem.
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you may have a crack in your clutch fork.i broke two pedals and made two engine drops before i found the problem.
Can you please elaborate? I am intrigued but I don't understand how a crack in the clutch fork could cause a pedal arm to break. I recently snapped a clutch adjusting lever and am wondering if this is related. Thanks

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