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Porsche Crest Some teaser pics of my next project

Here are some of the bits I've collected for my next project

Still undecided hether I'll have these K16's modded to K16/24's, K16/16G's or mod the heat exchangers for GT28RS's.

Cheapest option would be K16/24 hybrids or K16/16G's...



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Old 02-14-2009, 05:56 PM
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Nice!

Would love to hear some numbers once that thing is done...
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It'd be interesting!

The hybrid turbo's would have a flow capability of 550-700HP, depending on which route I take.

Boost will be limited to 1.25bar.
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That is going to be a fun project. Keep us updated with lots of pics please!
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Ooops! Here's the dual 50mm BOV's I'll be using:


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Oh, if I stick with the KKK "low-mount" hybrid solution, I'll probably go with one of these TurboWerx electric scavenge pumps for the oil drain. They're supposedly very reliable:




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Proven, powerful, and quiet. Manufactured exclusively for TurboWerx, this custom engineered pump is an economical solution for returning hot oil from a turbocharger back to the engine sump. With its 1.75GPM (105GPH) scavenging capacity, it is powerful enough to scavenge oil from two turbos. It will self-prime/draw from over 5 vertical feet, and pump the oil as high as 20 vertical feet. The custom black anodized finned heatsink lowers operating temperature, further enhancing reliability.

This is the smallest and lightest scavenge pump available - fitting inside a 7.2" x 4.0" x 4.0" box. It weighs less than 5 pounds, and includes anti-vibration mounting hardware. It is specified to handle a maximum oil temperature of up to 300F, and the power consumption is 12 volts @ less than 3.5 amps. Pump inlet and outlet fittings are standard 3/8" NPT. Also suitable for other fluids, such as engine coolant, alcohol, and water.

Pump has higher temperature rating than Mocal and Tilton, and greater capacity. Pump has no internal pressure regulation - can be used with external bypass regulator (like an EFI fuel pressure regulator) to provide up to 100 psi pressure.
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... and this BELL IC looks the goods too... probably make it 28" x 12" x 3.5"

Depends on how much $$$ to fab up

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Wow, that's gonna be some work.

Very cool project! Keep us up to date, get to work! ;-)
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Wow, that's gonna be some work.

Very cool project! Keep us up to date, get to work! ;-)
Thanks... It'll certainly be a fun project to get stuck into, that's for sure
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Very Nice!! wah wah we wah
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Thx - I think I'm going to get something like this made up

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James, please keep me informed to your scavange pump choice and how it works out, as I will also need to purchase one in the near future.
Thanks!
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The first pump pictured above is built to military specs, so I will probably go with that one for durability/reliability. Just need to decide on a good location to mount it, then "T" the oil drains from the turbo's into the inlet and pump the oil back into the oil drain sump plug/port. Pretty simple.

I'd prefer to gravity drain the oil into the sump plug, but it all depends on the location of the turbo's when mounted, relative to the sump plug. It just needs to flow downhill all the way.
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Why pump into the sump drain/port and not into the oil tank?
My first go at this was to gravity drain as well, but am thinking about using an electric scavange.
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Yeah, pumping back into the oil tank is another solution of course

I currently drain into the sump drain port with my single turbo configuration. Works perfect.
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James do you have a pic of that? Did you have to drill/tap the case or did you mod the sump plate?
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Sump plate? My car is a 3.2 Carerra - I just used a Male-to-Male union at the drain port.
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Yeah, please forgive me, I have a little bit of an older model.....
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Yeah, please forgive me, I have a little bit of an older model.....
Contact Ben on this Forum... he has the bits for the gravity drain solution for the earlier cars with the sump plates. You won't need a scavenge pump.
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That is the reason why I questioned you choice to switch, but now I realize it is more due to the location of the turbos.

Ben too is switching to a scavange system (factory), so I will have to find out from him why he is making the switch.
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