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purplehaze 02-26-2009 09:48 AM

Damn, Tony, that's VERY clever.

Many thanks for posting!

I don't have the 3.8 tail with the openings, but plan to route the turbo intakes up for cooler air. I just didn't like the idea of flexy hose expanding and contracting each time.

Cheers -

JBL930 02-27-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VZ935 (Post 4509141)
There is actually an aluminum piece that fits on top of the IC and mates up the the upening that looks like a huge NACA duct in the roof overlay/rear window... then vents out the bottom of the rear deck. The air basically gets pulled right though .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_DSC04753.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_DSC04755.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_1f568fdf.jpg

I see. I thought for a minute (from the rear view) it was like this

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...fancooler2.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...FanCooler3.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...tFanCooler.jpg

VZ935 02-27-2009 10:15 AM

No that is a real 935 and a Andial customer motor from back in the day . They would never put the IC right over the top of the flat fan . Most of the engines had the IC toward the front of the car like in my K3 935 . (excuse the adj Motons... so what , I cheated)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_DSC00117.jpg

A few were like my car including the Wayne Baker 934/935 that won the chapionship in 1983. Wayne explains this cofiguration here . He was running a single in GTO

http://www.waynebakerracing.com/images/934Champion/a_934_Champion.htm


Beautiful motor !

Reaper930 02-27-2009 09:29 PM

Johnathan - please tell me you're gonig to fit that motor in your car :)

Van - "so what...I cheated" hahahaha, wasn't that the premise behind the 935? Simply beautiful!

JBL930 02-28-2009 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper930 (Post 4512915)
Johnathan - please tell me you're gonig to fit that motor in your car :)

Can you imagine!! If money was no object then you could count on it!! Micke Svens has a 935 motor for sale, a genuine Andial motor, to own something like that would be a dream!
Van, you are a very lucky man, if you tell me you're also best mates with Hugh Hefner i'm going to jump off a bridge ;)

red9 02-28-2009 05:04 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869189.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869221.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869244.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869268.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869289.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869314.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869336.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235869369.jpg
This set up worked fantastically on a great engine.Have gone different direction so all you see is for sale.
Just found ot replacement cost over $10000 . Anybody interested is welcome to make a reasonable offer-I am listening.
SOLD SOLD SOLD to soon reappear close by!!

Reaper930 02-28-2009 09:18 PM

What size/type motor was it on prior? What was the designed output of the motor?

red9 02-28-2009 10:02 PM

The were used with a 3.6 ---- 100mm pistons ,964 3.6 Crank, 3.2 case. Single turbo .Ran Motec and put out genuine big number ( very conservative dyno set up) Never more than 1.1 bar of boost.
Because of rules that the engine ran under(HP penalised) the focus was on torque- so it was set up that way. On the track it would beat CupCars , V-8's with alleged 650HP+ (I only mention that to make point about dyno numbers being questionable guide) It was very usable engine with no percievable lag.
I also have to sell-- the Cams, Pauter Rods,100mm pistons -all from the same engines( also a new set of 993 TT pistons-Cosworth Blanks)

Reaper930 03-01-2009 02:04 AM

PM Sent Red9.

1WIDE911 03-02-2009 10:00 AM

so what would be the best way to mount the throttle bodies, directly to the intercooler or have intakes that collect for each of three throttle bodies. I have notched that PMO now offers mfi, does anyone know anything about it? When I use the ITB setup on the 993 motor which ignition system would be the best to use, had thought about the kit from patrick racing and clewett engineering. I would be trying to do away with all of the computer controlled part of the 993 setup if possible.

red9 03-06-2009 11:15 PM

My set up shown in photos above has been sold. Expect to see it back near here soon!!
I think this is close to the ultimate best system.

juicersr 03-07-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VZ935 (Post 4508681)
We just put a new motor in my 935 .. MFI of course because that's how Porsche rolled back in the 70-80's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...o/DSC03206.jpg

Then I have Motec on this one but with a single throttle body works great . Cheaper, less moving parts than individual throttle bodies but of course leaves some power on the table. Motor did a dependable 600+ at 1.1 and never broke and looked like new inside after 60 hours of run time
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...R/scan0007.jpg

Then on my buddy Bob's car we did Jenvees with Motec on an air motor but with water intercoolers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...r/DSC06766.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...r/DSC06763.jpg


Van, do you posses any street legal turbo making less than 700hp that you could bring to NC for the summer mountain turbo run when Gabriel's car is done at Zuff? I know it would be tough for you to drive at legal speeds, but it would be for a good cause. ;) Barring that, you gonna be running any of your steeds at Monterey?

juicersr 03-07-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by red9 (Post 4514160)

Gabe, so THOSE TWM's. Ah yes, Looks like something big, round and very tasty will fit right between those puppies!:D


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