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I was @ the texas mile when Eddie ran 226 and change and there were twin turbo Hennesy Vipers there and none of them could run 226 and change on slicks must less street tires.

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WOW, over 900BHP on a 3.2L! Amazing!

Must be pumping some serious boost through that 3.2
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Those horseshoe intakes are practically unobtainuum these days. That one does look like one out of a K3 (or K4). I owned/raced a Fabcar 935 with a 3.2 that looks almost identical to the one in the video. Last time we rebuilt the motor about 11 years ago, it dynoed at 836 bhp. We could get well over 900 bhp with the boost turned up. BTW, I recently priced one of those motors for a friend and the built price was $100,000+. The horseshoe alone is about $20,000 - if you can find an owner willing to part with one.

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WOW, over 900BHP on a 3.2L! Amazing!

Must be pumping some serious boost through that 3.2
1.4 bar climbing to 1.5 bar at top. You can actually see the bost on one of dyno monitor staples.
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On a Dyno Dynamics chassis dyno, doesn't really count. Don't flame me,i know his car is very fast, but you can't trust the crap chassis dyno's churn out. They don't load the engine properly for a start. He will not have that much REAL horse power, once heat sets in it will struggle to be in the 800 crank HP range. Still very impressive
I briefly worked on project with 3.6 engine which was dynoed to tad over 1000HP. It was quite straightforward job with no unobtanium parts. A pair of GT35R snails, a good intercooler and just two throttles. No titanium rods either, just H-beam steel and stock 993 Turbo pistons (!). Lots of small tweaks though.

IMHO , I believe that Bello really did dyno those numbers from his 3.6. It's possible. The real art is to make it last.
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I was @ the texas mile when Eddie ran 226 and change and there were twin turbo Hennesy Vipers there and none of them could run 226 and change on slicks must less street tires.
My point exactly!! i wasn't sure what the vipers could run... but that just further solidifies my point!! doubt that would have been possible with 1200BSHP ((bull****horsepower)).. hahahaha

Seriously Amazing car... nuff said
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Send Kevin Jeanette an email at Gunnar Porsche. http://www.gunnarracing.com/ He probably knows the whereabouts of every one of those intakes, etc.
I remember seeing different variations of injection mounted intercoolers and horseshoe plenums, etc. when I worked there.
I remember one that had the injectors mounted about 8 or 10" up the injector stacks above the throttle butterflies pointing upwards against the airflow to atomize fuel better.

The Kremer bodywork was the most attractive looking 935 to my eyes.
The wider longtail "Moby Dick" and the last generation ground effects 935 were pretty cool looking too, but then the wonderful 956 and then 962 with sidepod mounted intercoolers came along around the same time in '83 and the rest is history.
Later on the 962 got an injection mounted intercooler and a big air scoop on the top of the tail right behind the roof. That reduced turbo lag, made more horsepower, and worked better on some tracks and in hot climates.
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The Kremer bodywork was the most attractive looking 935 to my eyes.

Yes, yes it is.


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OK, i stand corrected. I still doubt very much that he was running that much boost over the mile. What boost level was he at on the dyno? 2.0+bar? I simply cannot believe that that intercooler on his car would keep intake temps in check for that much sustained WOT, it just doesn't seam possible. Besides, 226mph would be achievable on a lot less than 1200bhp.
I am well aware of Eddie's reputation, his car is really something, and it is clearly very very powerful, the figures just seam a bit inflated don't you think?

What torque is it showing for that dyno run, below is a graph showing what torque you would see with a stock engine at different boost levels. These figures can obviously be tweeked a little to allow for porting and other mods. Does anyone know what boost level he was at and what torque the dyno showed?



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We were clocked at 218 mph across the start/finish line at Daytona back in the day in my old 935. Given a long enough straight and the proper gearing, we figured we could achieve around 236 mph.
The car weighed 2100 lbs.



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We were clocked at 218 mph across the start/finish line at Daytona back in the day in my old 935. Given a long enough straight and the proper gearing, we figured we could achieve around 236 mph.
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Todd, did u guys run with the same 3.2 engine set up as in this vid? Just curious if you ever dynod and what HP u were seeing. Any other pix? Would love to see them.
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juicersr, yes the setup in the vid looks almost identical to the one we ran in my car (see pic). Last time we dyno'd it we got 836 bhp. I will locate some other pics and post them.

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juicersr, yes the setup in the vid looks almost identical to the one we ran in my car (see pic). Last time we dyno'd it we got 836 bhp. I will locate some other pics and post them.

Beautiful, thanks for the pix. Todd, would love for you to join us this summer (weekend of June 26-28) in Charlotte to show us all how to REALLY drive a 930 at speed. Planning a get together Sat nite after the track day, and i think i speak for all of us when i say we would love to hear your stories and anecdotes on driving the 935 back in the day.
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