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265/45/16 is just an 'ok' substitute... because it is a taller tire, with a larger sidewall, diameter, radius and circumfrence yielding a 7.2% variance to the original 245/45/16

Another option worthy of consideration is the Toyo RA-1.

Below from Toyo:
"The performance-proven RA1 features all the high-tech components to provide an uncommon advantage to the cost-conscious competitor who still demands quick lap time. It's true performance from Toyo! The RA1 has a soft but durable tread compound and stepped tread design.

Advanced race-proven casing design.
Two steel belts.
Heavy-duty bead construction.
Tread depth can be shaved to maximize dry traction response.
Full tread depth of 8/32nds provides aggressive wet traction.
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245/45ZR16 RA-1 COMP BL
The performance-proven RA1 features all the high-tech components to provide an uncommon advantage to the cost-conscious competitor who still demands quick lap time. It's true performance from Toyo! $205.00 /per tire"

Also available in RA1 is 205/55/16 -or- 225/50/16



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[QUOTE=turbo3six;6471953]265/45/16 is just an 'ok' substitute... because it is a taller tire, with a larger sidewall, diameter, radius and circumfrence yielding a 7.2% variance to the original 245/45/16

turbo3six,
Respectfully - I believe your math is off - 245/45-16 diameter is 24.7 in, 265/45-16 diameter is 25.4 in, which is only 2.9%, not 7.2%. Also another stock tire size on rear was 225/50-16, which has a diameter of 24.9, which makes the % change compared to the 265's even smaller - 2.1%. (I did it on my calculator but there's a cool online tire-size calculator http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I have the 265/45-16 XS on my car and love them, they are way better than the SO2 & SO3 combo I used to use for a while (neither type was offered in the required two sizes) - IMO to brand them as "just ok" is "just not the case"! For me, they are easily the best UHP tires I ever had on my car in the 180k and 13 years I've enjoyed. Pressures are critical though, I've settled on F-32psi (225/50), and R-33psi (265/45) for best temps and feel.

Agreed, the Toyo RA1 is indeed a great choice (in light of the Kumho 265 demise ;-)

Also, the Nexen site lists both 225/50-16 & 245/45-16 for the N3000... if other Pelicans like them (see infraredCalvin's post), they will be certainly cheap fun until we move to 17's...
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...then drove the 400 miles up the coast to Rennsport Reunion in oct. nice blast between 130-140 for about 15 miles before i came upon a cop - he gave me a half stink eye, then smirk before pulling off...
LOL, lucky dog! I ran up to RR IV too, but arrived Sun - hundreds of p-cars heading South, almost wore out my headlight flasher and my jaw ached from smiling and laughing so much. Northbound the road was pretty empty, CHP everywhere but vigilance and Bel paid off... a couple with kids got their big SUV up to a rather remarkable speed just to pull alongside to wave smile and thumbs up before I took off for a bit of fun like yours (but I only managed several short bursts of a mile or two at a time). Miles later, after I'd eased off, they caught up again to flash even bigger grins. It's great to think my old car can give others such simple vicarious pleasure!

In recent years, I've often found law enforcement to be more than reasonable about such things if conditions are appropriate, and one doesn't take such occasional tolerance for granted, or insult them by cocking a snook, etc. I still get pulled over once in a while for, well, you know but only rarely get issued a ticket.

But back to the thread - not a discouraging opinion on the Nexens then - will look forward to hearing more...
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Respectfully - I believe your math is off - 245/45-16 diameter is 24.7 in, 265/45-16 diameter is 25.4 in, which is only 2.9%, not 7.2%.
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Barry,
You are correct my math was flawed... I stand corrected, thank you. I really dig the RA-1's and Fuchs 16's. Great traction and reasonable wear charactersitics.
The 245/45/16 is an important tire to me as my 72, 79 and 87 are each fit with them.


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The 245/45/16 is an important tire to me as my 72, 79 and 87 are each fit with them.
My goodness, how ever do you decide which keys to pick up, roll a die?! They're gorgeous - what a fabulous stable.

Unlike the 265/45-16, seems there'll be something acceptable in 245/45-16 a while longer... month's end, my 3.6 install should be done - my mechanic reckons I won't last long without wanting more tire, so an early move to 17's might be in order - I'm thinking fabricated wider Fuchs-16-centered 17's or similar at the moment. Even if there are 18-in wheels that don't visually jar on our classic 911's, I wonder if the body structure is up to them, or can provide decent ride, for a street car.
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love the minerva blue! its really a shame that all the fat tires are slowly fading away. first it was 14s around 2000 . 5 years later no more good 15s. Now no more 16s. One can only hope that when the economy comes back so do the tires!
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has anybody run these long enough to see how long they last being rated a 180 my toyos are rated at 280 just wondering thanks Karl
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has anybody run these long enough to see how long they last being rated a 180 my toyos are rated at 280 just wondering thanks Karl
Hi Karl,
Yes, some info for you in this thread, see posts 32, 44 & 45 above.
But with availability as it is, this may have become moot
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I agree about 17" vs 18" visually. The 17"s just LOOK better. I'm even sticking with them on my 928.

I am a little worried though, if I spring out the dosh for a nice set of Zuffhausen 17's, will I lose the 17" tire choice in short order? What's everyone thoughts on that?
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turbo3six,

Respectfully - I believe your math is off - 245/45-16 diameter is 24.7 in, 265/45-16 diameter is 25.4 in, which is only 2.9%, not 7.2%.

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You are correct my math was flawed... I stand corrected, thank you. I really dig the RA-1's and Fuchs 16's. Great traction and reasonable wear charactersitics.

The 245/45/16 is an important tire to me as my 72, 79 and 87 are each fit with them.





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PM me about these if you're referring to tires.

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just saw .... the ad... look prefect.
Can you advise of shipping to 95747?

first dibs...
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looks like theres still a supply on ebay. Iv got mine mounted and no complaints yet. No shortage of grip thats for sure
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just saw .... the ad... look prefect.
Can you advise of shipping to 95747?

first dibs...
Got you're email...

We have a deal. See email for details.
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Hi looking for feed back on these as I am going to put a set on this week 265 45 rear and 255 50 fronts they are a little taller anybody have problems thanks Karl
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Hi looking for feed back on these as I am going to put a set on this week 265 45 rear and 255 50 fronts they are a little taller anybody have problems thanks Karl
I can tell you that I have a standard 930 turbo flare setup. I have a 74 chassis, but the flares are real metal. The 265-45-16s fit fine inside the flares, the left side on mine - has slight rub, but only on hard acceleration on right corners...

I am using 2" spacers and have 8" fuchs.

If you had a 1.75" or 1.5" spacers (on my setup) the tires would have about .5" on each side as a gap with these tires.

I would say if you get these tires you should be fine if your setup is very similar.

All things being equal - the tires are almost identical in fit to the 255/50/16s that I had on there originally, but they are slightly wider (by maybe 3/8" toward the outside)

Of course I have about 3" going toward the inside. If I had 10" or 11" wheels in the rear - these tires would be even more awesome looking.
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Waiting for clutch and tranny to be finished... back in on the 5th of September...



Resealing 73 style 915 tranny... was leaking on the clutch, causing problems shifting...

New tires 275/45r16.. Toyos... biggest I can fit/find.

Had to use these new ones @ 275 for reasons of availability... and price was right. I got them in trade for work I do for Wheeltechniques -- (Wheel Repair - Wheel Customizing - Your Body Shop for Wheels!) - I do the website...
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Had to add my pros to this post cause I have been having same predicament with my 1989 951 with 16x9" forged clubsports on all 4 corners. I run lots of camber so no issues with rubbing fenders. Haven't run them on track yet but looking forward to feb and march when the season starts up here in CA I know the ecsta feels very good on street the same as 225 star specs on my 8" wheels all around so I should be able to carve corners a bit more now with wider bite.

Found this on eBay he has a few sets of 265 ecstas new for sale for a bargain
Look at this on eBay:

(4) NEW KUMHO Ecsta XS (Extream Performance Street/Autocross) Tires 265 45 R 16

Item #: 290817785421

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Four 265 XS deal; street psi w/XS on 7&9x16?

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Look at this on eBay: (4) NEW KUMHO Ecsta XS (Extream Performance Street/Autocross) Tires 265 45 R 16
Fri 21 just received these goodies via same deal, same seller, very responsive, prompt delivery via trackable FedEx Ground, $465 for four inc. shipping. By 6pm had one of the pairs fitted (by Discount Tires) to the rear 9x16s while getting a pair of new Discount-provided (special order but available) 225/50-16 XS on front 7x16s (Fuchs all round).

Date stamp on eBay 265s was 41/08, only a week different to those I just wore out. Balanced up perfecto, so it looks like an honest and great deal. 6k-8k is most I get out of a set of rears, double that on the fronts, but this will help postpone putting out for Zuff 17s til sometime next year! (Unless the tire gods reveal more secret stashes.)

For everyday and often spirited back-road use, 32F/33R yielded near perfect even wear across fronts, but rears were losing crown a tad faster than margins.

So going to try 32psi (68F) all round this time.

How about you other folks with these Kuhmo XS 265/45-16 on rear 9x16 - turbo or narrow 3.2/3.6 conversion - any psi experiences to share?
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Found this thread while I was lamenting the lack of wide 16" rubber as I help a friend look for new tires for this Northstar Fiero build. Glad to know the Kumho XS 265/45-16 will fit on a 16x8.

opticalfuel it looks like those 275s are the Toyo Proxes TQ (drag radial)

Toyo*Proxes TQ

I have been curious to know what driving a "drag" tire like this on the street was like. Do you do any spirited driving with them? If so how do they handle? Also what kind of wear are you seeing?

Also I highly recommend WheelTechniques, they did awesome work repairing a severely damaged lip on a forged Volk of mine. Reasonable price too. No one else here in Oregon thought it could be fixed, and they took on the challenge and now the wheel looks likes like new.

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