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It's an MY 1976 930 3.0 (stated simply as a Porsche Turbo on log card), first registered in Japan in 1977 and then on 31 March 1982 here in Singapore.

Cars here in Singapore are very pricey and older cars are very rare. I have been looking for a pre-1989 911 for well over a year now and decided on this seeing as it's a 3.0 and something a bit different.

The car needs a lot of work....

The obvious bits are they cosmetics, I am fighting a very strong urge to put the original look back together first but my head says sort the mechanicals out first!

It didn't run when I bought it a couple of weeks ago because the turbo was non existent! I have now fitted a new K27HF from UMW in the US and the car is nor 'running'. It has a dual core intercooler, SC grind cams, EFi controlled by megasquirt ECU, 3.2 barrels and JE pistons apparently giving a displacement of 3,164 cc and a compression ratio of 8.5:1 unsure.gif Also has boxster monoblock brakes and bilstein suspension and a brand new interior in a 964/3.2 style, very nicely done with Porsche embossed headrests but a tad modern.

My plan at the moment is:
1 - Tune the ECU for safe test driving use
2 - Drive the car as much as possible to see what shakes down (and because I want to drive it as much as possible!)
3 - Minor paint touches to see me through the initial stages
4 - Get the engine out and see exactly what we are dealing with
5 - Get the looks as much back to original as possible (with the exception of the rear spoiler as a 3.0 one wont clear the intercooler, and I might go for 16' Fuchs if I can source them to clear the boxster brakes
6 - Choose a new colour!! GP White or Guards Red currently winning the race in my head! biggrin.gif

The mechanical works are progressing well, I will be doing the leakdown this week to see if I need to pull the engine out at this stage.

My mind is again wandering to the looks of the car!! I have been searching the internet but can't seem to find the parts I need for a decent price. Does anyone know where I can get turbo impact bumpers and side skirts to fit, and a 3.3 turbo tea tray lid?
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1989 944 S2 Cab // 1983 SC Cab //1977 930 3.0 - back from the dead! custom turbokraft IC, Motec M600, 550cc injectors, individual coil packs, 964 cams, UMW HFS7200 turbo, billy boat headers, turbo thomas back box, 996T oil pump, 3.2 JE pistons and barrels = 375.6bhp // 1973 BMW 3.0 CSL // 1973 E Type FHC
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i think i have just answered my own question! i have just been going through the for sale section of this forum - i didn't realise it was so busy! i'm on page 12 and still the posts are only one week old!!!
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Mark, If you get an opportunity will you post some photos of the fuel rails and injector blocks used on your car? I'm on the lookout for oem looking fuel rails, injectors and blocks for my future conversion. Thanks! Charlie

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will do, i will get the camera out this week.
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Just a thought and it is certainly your car to do with as you please. Many of the 930 guys update their cars to look like a 965 Turbo. You are over 80% there including the tear drop mirrors and what looks to be a nice paint job and the interior is complete and styled correctly. If it were me I would sort out the mechanicals, remove the old style rocker panels to complete the 965 look and remember you are basically running a light weight 930 with updated more modern looks.
Beautiful car should be fun and always enjoy the journey. Jim
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thanks jim

unfortunately the bodywork is good from far but far from good! it has quite a few rust bubbles on the lower doors, front wings and around both the front and rear windscreens.

i am with you on the mechanicals, i will be sorting all these out first, including suspension bushings, dampers, strut/sway bars etc.

fortunately the car already has better brakes than the stock 3.0 turbo units, it has 3.2 carrera discs with boxster monobloc calipers.

the bodywork will come later - but for some reason i seem to spend most of time daydreaming about what look to go for as opposed to anything mush else!!! ;-)
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Mark, Sweet 930 for sure. What a great list of goodies,,, and more to come.

Is there a retractable microphone in your console prone to be used with the Blaupunkt Bamberg in 1977? It kind of looks like you made the whole 964 transformation. Yes?

HEY! Did you happen to attend the Formula1 race last week? The roads there look well suited for a 930. Do you have any youtube clips of your car rolling? Would love to hear it!
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hi chris,

unfortunately i missed the F1 this year as i was travelling, but i went last year and it was awesome! easily better than any of the other motorsport events i have been to - well maybe except for le mans!

even more disappointing to miss this year was our local porsche forum went on an organised drive around the circuit the week before!!

i don't have a mic in the console, but the entire interior has been updated by one of the previous owners. i don't have any youtube clips yet - i will get some done once i work out why the car wont go above 4000rpm!?! :-)
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Great, Mark, I will look forward to your clip when you present it.

Additionally, that course is grueling. There are a lot of bumps that need to be worked out, don't your think. Maybe not so obvious to those going a bit slower with a heavier car, but the F1 chassis really take a beating, not to mention the drivers! Is there any thought to grind those areas out and improve them for next year, maybe even possibly repave those rocky sections?

The lighting is nothing short of a human marvel!

I did hear that paddock tour passes were $6,000.00USD. Finish line seats $1700.00USD or were those quotes in Singapore currency?

I am huge Formula1 fan, My venue of choice might be Spa or Monza. The latter due to being in Italy and all of the energy Ferrari fans would throw out! I sat in a black F430 Scuderia last week. Now THAT was sick! I felt like Ferris Bueller sitting in Cameron's dad's 250.

Amazing debacle regarding Briatore and Symonds conspiracy, et. al., Renault. Huge sponsors dumping out.

Sorry to hijack your thread with F1 trivia. I just couldn't resist!
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no worries chris, hikacking is most welcome when i comes to F1!

there are ongoing attempts here to make the surface better, i am surprised that it wasn't more sorted this time round actually.

i think those prices must be in SG$, it's about US$1 = SG$1.5 at the moment. last year i had grandstand tickets right on the bend that piquet jr "crashed" at and they cosst me about US$250 each.

i have been to sepang in malaysia also for the F1, was good fun but this part of the world is far too hot for daytime races - although i do manage to head there fro track days in my min without aircon!

here's some pics of the drive round the circuit that i missed

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25839&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45&sid=75dfd01967c744123773168c49a21c9a
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charlie - sorry for the delay but here are the pictures of the engine and fuel rails and injector block. i have no idea whether or not it looks stock though.



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Hi,

I have the same car and just did a rebuild on it. That is not stock. Your car came with CIS. injectors were mech, not electronic. Might be stock 3.2's
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Wow – That is a cool find and a rare bird for Singapore. I am a little torn on what advice to give you, so here it is off the top:
1) Love the 965 look. I say keep it! Someone spent some big $$ on it to update it, I say keep it (Ha…I just said that twice). The interior is ultra sweet.
2) Love the metallic silver paint. Famous German racing color. The car wears that color beautifully. I vote for keeping it silver and repainting it in silver and not doing a color change to white or another color. Out of curiosity what was the factory color?
3) Sort out the mechanicals as other forum members mentioned. Again Someone spent some big $$ to convert it to the MS system. I vote for getting to learn it, understand it and really use it and you can extract some really good horsepower from it. You could also spend a few $$$ on tidying it up if you so wish, for example nicer fuel rails, Braided lines and Earls anodized fittings etc…
4) 15” wheels…why…why? Please don’t! These cars look so tough with the right shoes, and 15” wheels are not the right shoes. Its like giving a 100meter sprinter a pair of slippers to win the gold! I vote for keeping the 17s on them or if you must try and get a set of Lindseys, Jeff Altons or Patrick 3 piece 17” Fuchs.
You could end up dropping a boat load of $$$ by the time you paint it and drop the motor and maybe freshen it up…well over $10,000 US, not incl. new wheels and tires.

Anyway we have a few 930 members from Singapore and Malaysia on here, so hope you get to meet them.

Good luck and keep us informed on what you decide.
Regards - Yasin
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Thanks Mark! those images are great!

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charlie - sorry for the delay but here are the pictures of the engine and fuel rails and injector block. i have no idea whether or not it looks stock though.
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Hi,

I have the same car and just did a rebuild on it. That is not stock. Your car came with CIS. injectors were mech, not electronic. Might be stock 3.2's
thanks, sorry i know it's not stock, i meant that i don't know if looks OEM for porsche EFI.

trying to tune the megasquirt ECU now...
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thank yasin,

yes it is a bit if a find! am i very pleased with it, it took me bout 4 years to find it!!!

unfortunately the bodywork is in a bit of mess, it looks good from the pictures but up close the paint job isn't great and i have quite a lot of rust in all the usual places. the rear wing and bumper are also out of shape for some reason. so even if i wanted to keep the 965 look i would have to re-do a lot of bodywork (don't feel sorry for me - i bought the car with my eyes open, nothing wrong with buying a dog as long as you know it's a dog right?!!) the original colour is listed on my log card as silver - but i haven't researched it yet so i'm not sure exactly what silver it would be for a 1977?

so seeing as i have to re-do the bodywork i would like to return it to the stock look as i am one of the rare few who prefer the original 930 look!!

i do not want to go too original, as in the 15" wheels and no intercooler. but i would like to get 16" fuch as thy will cover decent brakes. i don't mind 17" as long as it's fuch look - so thanks for the tip i will look up those companies you mentioned.

i'll keep you posted!
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update on project 930:

took the cam covers off to replace gaskets to try to improve leaks and discovered:
-the cams are SC cams and not SC grind as i had originally thought - good news!
-all the rocker shafts were incorrectly fitted so had to get them out and put them bad in correctly - bad news, esp as due to the incorrect fitting they were a pig to get out!
-the cam timing was 4mm so it has now been set to 1mm - good news as the engine should run better
-RHS cam cover not cracked as originally thought (due to all the sealant covering the cover!), but some old gasket pieces found under the actual gasket, so once all cleaned should be leak free - good news
-cam chain drive shaft seal leaking - good news cos it can be easily fixed!

there were cheap spark plugs in the car which will be getting replaced with the proper bosch ones, i have a slight fuel leak on the tank breather which is under investigation and i am having al lthe rubber and jubilee clip fuel lines replaced with proper braided and crimped items for safety.

after all this i am really looking forward to running the car again - we're no where near done, but it should be a marked improvement!!!
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couple of pics with the cam covers off:



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a big thank you to bvlacklotus99 who dug up my original colour. turns out it was "Diamante Z5" also known as "Sarah Diamant", "Sahara Diamant" and "Diamond Sahara Metallic"

so i think it should be something like this or Google Image Result for http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/uploaded/16763.jpg
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finally after many emails and phone calls to various porsche dealers/distributors around the world, i have finally got my certificate of authenticity!



pinstriped velour - bring it on!!!
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