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Look what showed up at the shop-

This little number followed my partner home. Can't wait to go for a ride.




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Old 10-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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Brian,

See if you can borrow it for the weekend, come to Indiana, and we can drive
it like we stole it !!!!

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If I show up in Indiana driving that car in the winter time it would be stolen!
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"Little number"? Little my a$$! Definitey need to spool her up.

What....does Indiana have a bad rep? I used to live in Illinois, and parking in downtown Chicago was never a wise idea either.
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No, no knock on Indy, what I mean is stealing the car is the only way it's going to show up in the winter in Indiana with me driving it, ha!

No turbo to spool on this bad boy, only 400+ normally aspirated 3.8L horsepower at 8500rpm!
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I say twin tubocharge it and trickle the boost in at 3-4psi and see what it feels like at 8500rpm!

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No, no knock on Indy, what I mean is stealing the car is the only way it's going to show up in the winter in Indiana with me driving it, ha!

No turbo to spool on this bad boy, only 400+ normally aspirated 3.8L horsepower at 8500rpm!
And will kick nearly all our turbo-asses. IMO, the best new P-car made. I would even take it in ready-for-decals-white...
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And will kick nearly all our turbo-asses. IMO, the best new P-car made. I would even take it in ready-for-decals-white...
I agree in some regards, feel 'mixed' in others.

Forget if I posted this here or not (knowing me - probably?), however - I DID omit my true 'feelings' about the comparo / contrasto so as not to offend my buddy who is ohsocool and was ohso generous in sharing.

997 GT3 MkII | Hot European Cars Blog & Discussion at European Car Magazine (I'm Sgt. Schultz btw/FWLIW)

All said, I kinda sorta oddly and surprisedly rather enjoyed my 996 time better. Granted, it's 'sorted'. Granted the 997 had like 1k miles and he didn't want to WOT it until "dealer prescribed 1200mi" or something, so 6500-7k had "to do" (if there is such thing in 'that'???).

Don't get me wrong, fantabulous car. But, like any 'neu' Porsche... an undeniable element of sterilty and removedness.

I was so 'easy' to drive, it was almost too 'such'. Dunno - hard to quantify.

I wouldn't kick one out of bed for spilling cracker crumbs butofocourse, but... my 930 ride home DID put a galactic smile on me face.

997s are firgin GINORMOUS cars. At least seemingly.

anywho
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that thing is white sex on wheels, can't believe you'd let him park it inside WITHOUT giving you a ride!!!
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Ha, he owns the shop so his cars come and go.
This car was ordered with some nice options and weighs 3000 pounds wet. They have a raw feel as compared to the 997 and completely different than the 997tt. He took a look at the 997tt and said they have made strides to not be so bloated.
It would be very difficult and expensive for any 930 to achieve the level of handling and power delivery that the GT3 offers. That is to be expected with a six figure price tag and a 30 year advance in technology.
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DON'T go for a ride in it Brian!

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It's always interesting to hear how people think that the 997 series possesses such "sterile" handling, as if we all have the experience and ability to hustle our Turbo cars around a track, tail out and in perfect control, lap after lap.

Yesterday while traveling at speeds that could have easily landed me in jail, I would have gladly paid for some of that "sterile" handling instead of the constant intervention my car required to keep it on the road.

The fact is that the GT3 can be driven fast by enthusiasts like ourselves, who, for the most part, have average performance driving skills, mostly due to limited seat time. As a weekend warrior I feel that it's much less frustrating to have a car that goes where you point it. It allows me to concentrate on other things such as driving the proper line through the turn. Such a car is naturally faster than older technology I think that we all agree that more speed = more fun (after all, that's why we own Turbos).

Don't get me wrong, I love older Porsches like 930s, Carreras and SCs. They are special for their own reasons. When it's time to go really fast I feel that I'm better off in the most competent car I can access.
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I agree in some regards, feel 'mixed' in others.

Don't get me wrong, fantabulous car. But, like any 'neu' Porsche... an undeniable element of sterilty and removedness.

I was so 'easy' to drive, it was almost too 'such'. Dunno - hard to quantify.

I wouldn't kick one out of bed for spilling cracker crumbs butofocourse...
Good words Paul.. I couldn't have said it better!

For me, due to several close friends of mine, and having been in the business for a number of years, I've been fortunate enough to get behind the wheel of some very interesting machinery, both current and vintage.

The new stuff just leaves me wanting.. the GT3, GT2 and GT3RS are all amazing cars but.. but, ok.. maybe its the price tag?

I had even considered a 993TT some time ago, and although it's really nice, spooled nicely albiet w/a little less grunt than the 930, it was a little too cushy and I didn't like the pwr assisted steering or the wieght and feel of the AWD.. yes, I could tell.

Oh, & RarlyL8.. like you, my fortunes may come again as I undestand one of my "close friends" may have something special showing up at his garage too in the near future.. I promise to share!
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I think the real question is....how does it compare to a GT2?? Now that would be a cool test..
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