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Falk930 11-01-2009 08:02 AM

adjustable spring plates
 
I am close to finish my 930, now I need to
work a little on the suspension.

Which adjustable spring plates can you recommend?
I look for a simple system like Weltmeister or Sway-away,
the elephant racing is not the way I like to go?


thanks

Falk

Garrison 11-01-2009 08:38 AM

Have you looked at Rebel Racing? Clint has a set he makes.

JFairman 11-01-2009 09:18 AM

Depends how much you want to spend.
I have the weltmiester adjustable spring plates and they work fine as they are supposed to with no problems but it's just a street car.

I greased the red urethane bushings with molybdenum disulfide grease while installing them and they pressed in just right and have never squeaked.

A magnetic analog angle finder stuck to the top edge of the spring plate helps alot while initially indexing them onto the torsion bar splines.

Falk930 11-01-2009 09:55 AM

The Weltmeister are my first choice currently,
as my 930 is in street use only.

Falk

911st 11-01-2009 04:13 PM

You should have adjustable spring plates from the factory.

I guess you mean the ones that are easy to adjust.

I like the looks of the ER's. They do not look like they are going to come up off there stops if one unweights there car over a rise or if the car is jacked up. Not sure if this is a possibility with all spring combos or not.

A930Rocket 11-01-2009 05:25 PM

I've got the Sway-A-Away spring plates. I want to say they are the same as the Weltmeisters. Anyway, mine have worked well for thousands of track miles and I've never heard of a failure. Makes ride height and corner weighting very easy.

fredmeister 11-02-2009 04:09 AM

Weltmeister work but could have issues as "911st" mentioned. Elephant Racing units are a better mousetrap on the same design. Worth the added expense to me to put the best on my car.

A930Rocket 11-02-2009 10:34 AM

What's the difference between the Weltmeister and sway-a-way? If it's the same, I gotta disagree Fred. I've driven my Turbo for 9 years on the track and an SC on the track for 4 years before that with the sway-aways. And I'm not talking about easy laps either.

I know a few guys inquired about the ER part for racing, but the part didn't do anything spectacular for the money.

Now just about everything else from weltmeister is bottom rung.

Falk930 11-02-2009 11:09 AM

Yes, on my 87 930 the spring plates are adjustable,
but I would prefer the more easy system.
One difference between Sway-away and Weltmeister is the price.
Maybe they are the same, anyone here can tell the difference?

A while ago I have read here about problems with adjustable spring plates.
I can`t find the threat again.
If I remember correct, the spring plates didn`t fit well on the torsion bars.
I am not sure, but I think those was Sway-aways.

*always I have problems with multiple words search:
"adjustable spring plates" for example.
whats the trick to find what I am looking for?

thanks
Falk

fredmeister 11-02-2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 4987721)
What's the difference between the Weltmeister and sway-a-way? If it's the same, I gotta disagree Fred. I've driven my Turbo for 9 years on the track and an SC on the track for 4 years before that with the sway-aways. And I'm not talking about easy laps either.

I know a few guys inquired about the ER part for racing, but the part didn't do anything spectacular for the money.

Now just about everything else from weltmeister is bottom rung.

Elephant racing captures the ajustment secrew better, Weltys have the possibilty of the adjustment plate disengaging from the adjustment screw. You need to look at the design of each in detail to see what I mean. Doesn't mean its gonna happen to everyone but a design flaw none the less.

A930Rocket 11-02-2009 04:01 PM

I just looked up the difference ( I had been posting from my iPhone). I agree that for $75 more, I would get the ER adj spring plates.

BTW. Does Weltmeister make the Sway-A-Way spring plates? I was under the assumption it was another company.

fredmeister 11-03-2009 04:46 AM

Weltmeister and Sway away are the same company I believe.

DDDD 11-03-2009 05:45 AM

My understanding is that 'sway away' is simply the name of the weltmeister spring plate product.

The ER ones weigh less, as do the carrera factory spring plates which also work fine. The weltmeister weigh more but are cheaper and do the job also.

There is really not a bad choice here.

JFairman 11-03-2009 08:07 AM

When I got mine the box said Weltmeister Sway Away adjustable spring plates on the box.
The sway away spring plates are a little thicker steel than the origonals and they twist a little as the control arms pivot up and down and rear tire camber changes.

Some people have drilled a hole in the spring plate for a bolt with a shallow head that clears the chassis longitudinal and a slotted hole in the splined short adjuster piece to lock them together once they are adjusted. That would make them more durable.

They also come with urethane bushings that won't compress and deflect under the weight of the car, or under acceleration and braking causing the rear wheel alignment to change.

Elephant racing monoball control arm bushings would improve the rear suspension alighnment stability even more.

pavulon 11-03-2009 10:26 AM

If you like overkill (you own a 930, you must like overkill :))...
ELEPHANT RACING ASP Adjustable Spring Plate, 911 Series

bkreigsr 11-03-2009 10:33 AM

Elephant as two types of spring plates for our cars. ASP, and a new Quick Change.

the quick change can be purchased either as the splined tb mount by itself to be used in conjunction with the oem adjustable plate, or both the splined mount and a new plate.
I'm up for this quick change conversion myself, as I just finished the fronts this weekend with Chuck's hollow 21's (up from stock 19) and new oem type bushings.
my car sees 3-4 DE weekends a year, and I prefer the less-harsh ride of the smaller bars on my '77, so the rears are going to be hollow 28's (up from stock 26).

the car has 102,000 miles on it, so the original bushes are pretty well shot.

hope this helps

Bill K


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