Order Online or Call:  
888-280-7799  
HACKER SAFE certified sites prevent over 99.9% of hacker crime.
Porsche | BMW | Mercedes | Audi | Volkswagen | Saab | Volvo | Mini
  Search Pelican Parts:    
View Cart | Project List | Order Status |  Help    
Click Here To Add Your Car to Our Owner's Photo Gallery!!!
Chat with other Users in the Chat Room NOW!!!
banner
The Pelican Parts Forums salutes the memory of Warren Hall (Early S Man), 1950 - 2008.  You will be missed by all... [Click for more details]
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
sprbxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Peaks, VA
Posts: 648
Send a message via Yahoo to sprbxr
Anti turbo lag w/ EFI

Is anyone here using an EFI system with anti lag technology? (like the WRC cars)

My EFI has Anti Lag, Launch Control, Power shift, pit road speed limiter, traction control and a few other options. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with the Anti Lag technology.
__________________
Justin
911 GT2 racecar
Old 11-20-2009, 02:58 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
930gt-40r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Orange, CT
Posts: 1,937
I helped set it up on a buddy's talon and it rocks- Anti lag simply retards the hell out of the timing (on his it runs 10 retarded) and builds 20 psi on a 40R! I reccomend it. Are you trying to set it up to "no lift shift?'
__________________
Kris
86' Slant
Old 11-20-2009, 06:09 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
sprbxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Peaks, VA
Posts: 648
Send a message via Yahoo to sprbxr
Quote:
Originally Posted by 930gt-40r View Post
I helped set it up on a buddy's talon and it rocks- Anti lag simply retards the hell out of the timing (on his it runs 10 retarded) and builds 20 psi on a 40R! I reccomend it. Are you trying to set it up to "no lift shift?'
Not yet. Still working on gathering my engine parts (need a crank).

With the ECU I have, there is capability for no-lift along with the anti-lag. From what I can find out, I can retard it as much as 40. I am sure that would be too much. I can also run 12 injectors sequential. Seems to be a pretty capable unit although the hard part is tuning it of course. The ecu is also adaptive.
__________________
Justin
911 GT2 racecar
Old 11-20-2009, 06:57 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
9dreizig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Reno NV, Brentwood NH, and Bay Area during the week
Posts: 3,588
Send a message via AIM to 9dreizig
Justin
What ECU are you going to use? Is this the same car you had when I bought the tracdog off you ??
__________________
"Todd"
98 Tahoe ,2001 A4 Quatro
86 930 black and stock, 80 930 blue tracdog

"life"ll kill ya" Warren Zevon
Old 11-20-2009, 08:03 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
sprbxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Peaks, VA
Posts: 648
Send a message via Yahoo to sprbxr
No. This is a different car. Ecu is a EFI Technology Euro96.


You still have the blue car? Get it running and driving? Any pics?
__________________
Justin
911 GT2 racecar
Old 11-20-2009, 08:19 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
9dreizig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Reno NV, Brentwood NH, and Bay Area during the week
Posts: 3,588
Send a message via AIM to 9dreizig
Yeah I've got it,, in fact had you come to Turbopalooza this summer I drove it from Lake Tahoe to N. Carolina..
It looks the same,, other than has a roll cage in it, re-did the interior ,,
__________________
"Todd"
98 Tahoe ,2001 A4 Quatro
86 930 black and stock, 80 930 blue tracdog

"life"ll kill ya" Warren Zevon
Old 11-20-2009, 08:25 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Join us in Monterey for the Pelican Wine Tour & Canyon Run!  Click Here!
Registered User
 
sprbxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Peaks, VA
Posts: 648
Send a message via Yahoo to sprbxr
Excellent! I always loved the color of that car even though it wasn't totally correct.
__________________
Justin
911 GT2 racecar
Old 11-20-2009, 08:32 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
9dreizig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Reno NV, Brentwood NH, and Bay Area during the week
Posts: 3,588
Send a message via AIM to 9dreizig
The problem is it's got about 4 coats on it.. I'm going to start stripping it this winter I think and re-painting it quarter panel by quarter panel.. probably lose 50 lbs LOL
__________________
"Todd"
98 Tahoe ,2001 A4 Quatro
86 930 black and stock, 80 930 blue tracdog

"life"ll kill ya" Warren Zevon
Old 11-20-2009, 09:09 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
kenikh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,819
A good primer:
Antilag system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/bangbang.html
__________________
Kenik
- 1969 911S
- 1965 911
Old 11-30-2009, 08:03 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
930gt-40r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Orange, CT
Posts: 1,937
One method not mentioned is the idea of cutting every other ignition cycle in order to create the same effect. I will say that I have seen how bad this all beats the motor/ turbo manifold up. And you think 911s have bad manifold cracking problems now? Anti lag/launch control really beat up turbo and manifolds. My friend runs schedule 10 piping for his exhaust primaries and they still crack over time...
__________________
Kris
86' Slant
Old 11-30-2009, 10:33 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 5,459
Per Kenik's reference.

It seems our air injection system might act as kind of an anti lag system except we are using an air pump instead of bleeding air off the compressor side.

Further, bypassing air around the turbo at idle and cruse seems to part of a anti lag system if I am reading it right thought it is written poorly.

Thus, keeping the air pump and reconfiguring the anti stall compressor bypass to stay open with intake manifold vac both seem valid strategies though not as sexy as turning the turbo's hot side into a jet turbine.
Old 11-30-2009, 11:06 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:03 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.1
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
Copyright 2009 Pelican Parts - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website
One of the largest message boards on the web !