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What the record runs at this event did was add many more competitors to the mix who may balk at the drive to texas.

This will help both events get exposure.

We won't be bringing the GT to Texas because the "everglades jetport" has a superior surface.........and it's only two hours drive, if that.

Look for a 265+ run soon and look for us at Sebring this weekend.
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Do we have any details on Eddie's build? I am curious how you get so much reliable horsepower and use it in a street-able car.
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Nice vids and music...simply AWESOME!
Great job guys!
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Old 03-20-2010, 05:02 AM
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Thanks we choose that song because you have to be Crazy to do what he does, is so intense that is not even funny, plus he is from New York, well almost, he was born in Puerto Rico
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I mentioned on another post that we had a similar event here in the UK the day before, and there was a 1000 bhp car that managed 222mph. This was a Cabriolet water cooled car, i thought it was a 997 to start with but it's a 996. Anyway, point being this was a mega fast car, and yes it's heavier than Bello's motor, but it only managed 222mph in 1.5 miles, Bello getting 236+ in one mile is something to behold!!
This is a VIDEO of the 996 taken by a German fella that's big on the BMW boards, i am in the 997GT2 with Toby, the GT2 is a proper 650bhp RS Tuning engine. The GT2 only managed 197. It's stuff like this that really brings it home just how quick that Bello car is!!!!
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I apologize for quoting your post, this has absolutely no ill intentions, just a few opinions and different point of view and I hope you dont mind.

1- The difference in drag between the Cabrio in the video and Bello's car is over 100hp. In other terms, this is a 6-7mph top speed difference..It would take the same engine almost another fifth of a mile to reach the same top speed all else being equal.

2- The difference in rolling friction between the rather narrow 18" tires that Bello has and the 315s of the Cabrio (looks like it) is an approximate 20hp difference at those speeds. That's about a 1 mph top speed difference.

3- The Weight difference is about 10 mph in top speed. Same as in point #1 above, it would take the same engine another quartermile to reach the same speed all else being equal..

When you look at it this way, it is very reasonable to say that Bello's car can run this sort of speed in the mile with less than 1000fwhp.

As to the incremental half a mile between both events, that is around an additional 15mph top speed, and you are right concerning standstill vs rolling start, a typical 0-60mph on the street takes around 160 feet - 50 meters, whereas an incremental 1 mph at top speed takes about double that distance..so there is a difference, but it would be less than 1 mph in top speed at best.

The 997GT2 could not have been making 650hp and reach only 197mph, I am sure the owner he could confirm that, top speed should be around 201-202mph for that car.

All the above is just plain data though and I am in no way trying to downplay this outstanding success.. Bello makes all aircooled owners proud, he is simply one very smart and very loco man and great engine builder/tuner, and we stand behind him to beat another record in Texas, if anyone deserves it that is definitely him.


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i'm no expert but your figures may work on paper but out on the runway the clocks don't lie.

Juans car went 193 mph with roughly 675rwhp in a narrow body 911. The GT2 hit 197 with a bit of an aero advantage. sounds about right to me. How come the only other car to go faster had well over 1600hp?

and don't confuse top speed with what we're talking about here, which is accelerating from 0 to 236.6mph in 5280ft.
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Who tells you Juan's car has 675rwhp, the dyno? Rest assured I am not confusing top speed, what is meant is top speed within a mile.
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So if I translate this what you're saying is that Bello ran 236.6 in a mile with less than 1000fwhp ?
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Juan, what I think about HP does not really matter, I really do not want to take anything from this achievement, whether it has 300 or 2000 hp. I have no interest in the top hp debate.

As much as this might sound unrealistic, that Cabrio and Eddie's engine can have the same or very close HP numbers once you factor all the parameters.
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Thanks but I have to agree with this part "As much as this might sound unrealistic"

Based on the fact that I have seen the car do 162 mph in the 1/4 mile. I have seen the 1200 dyno sheets and I have seen the car run 236.6 from dead stop in a mile, if theres anyone out here with those numbers I love to see them.

Those are the type of parameters that I like to go by. Is all good and nothing more than a friendly debate I am praying to the turbo Gods to keep him safe and see if he can run 245+ at the Texas mile then we can continued with the

"that Cabrio and Eddie's engine can have the same or very close HP numbers once you factor all the parameters"
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I think the real question here is "what's the limit?" I don't know Eddie, but as far as I'm concerned, he's gone fast enough

These things have a way of snowballing, and the end result isn't good for anyone... After 245 comes 250, then what???

I would just pray that he [or his friends] have a safety expert really look over his entire setup and to give him the best possible chances when/if the worst possible happens...

I'm watching a NASCAR event getting started right now and can't help but see all the safety built around those drivers...

I'm just more interested in what he's doing to be safe... I hope the his loved ones are, too.
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No problem Juan, this is a democracy, opinions are always welcome . I am ready for the tech debate about why these two cars have similar engine output anytime you would feel like it.

I agree with Mooney, safety first. I would be concerned about aerodynamic lift at those speeds despite the aggressive rake that the car is setup with, no diffuser and rather high CG.

Good luck.

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Texas mile is in a week so we have the entire week to be E-Racers and keep us occupied
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E racers.... 1 bar juan is right. calculate all you want on paper, it's the "doin' it" thats hard. And that is what Eddie has done...
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You're right about the GT2, after looking at his logs he was down on power, his maths said he should have been 201 -203 in that run. He filled up with cheap petrol on the day, and that was his problem. Also, the GT2 has far worse drag than any of our cars, the downforce on those 997 GT2's is staggering. The same guys Carrera GT only managed 197 at the same event, and it's all down to the massive downforce these cars produce.
As for as the 996 Cab that did 222, remember it's a much heavier car. He pulled 210 with the roof down.... I don't real care what Bello's power is anymore, the car is ****ing nuts!! I'd love to get in the driving seat
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I'd love to get in the driving seat

I know no one will believe me but I have never been on that car or will EVER be I was on my car in the passenger seat with Bello driving after the last set up he did on my car and I though that I was going to die! that's how aggressive he can drive so forget about been a passenger in his car ! not me !
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Is it just me?????

I don't see a front half to the cage in Bello's car? Can this be right? Is it just hidden within the interior?

Good Lord if there is not a full cage in that car with the absolutely incredible speeds he is reaching.
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Is it just me?????

I don't see a front half to the cage in Bello's car? Can this be right? Is it just hidden within the interior?

Good Lord if there is not a full cage in that car with the absolutely incredible speeds he is reaching.

Yeah Juan.. bug him about finishing the roll cage and getting a window net in it.
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We are static to report that RarlyL8 Motorsports has join the Bello team as a sponsor for the up coming Texas 1 Mile, we thank you for your support. For more information about RarlyL8 Motorsports please visit their website.

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We still have more spots open ! Help us represent the P cars !
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