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Nice! It's Happy Hour time!

If you want a real love/hate relationship buy a british car...........LOL
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If your MSD went wrong, one of the good things about MSD is you can buy a new 6AL in almost every auto parts store in the nation.

try that with a permatune...
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BTDT. Had two TR6's and a GT6+ years ago. You would think I'd have learned with the first one.

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I'll try the MSD again when I have more time. It may have been a bad/loose wire somewhere I didn't see. Last time I hade one go bad I sent it back and they said the circuit board was fried. I can only think trying to jump start it caused that to happen per MSD. If I get another one, it'll be from Jegs or Summit. Best prices there.

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The total price for one is less at
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because they have free shipping.
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Thanks Jim. I didn't realize there were so many 6AL options. I think there was one when I bought mine years ago.

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Anyway, looks like it's fixed, so now I need to start taking it on those tenative trips away from home.
This is a true test of us die-hard DYI guys. When I built my car and experimented with designs or tunes, this was when I really had to leave my ego at the door. Like the time just after I converted to EFI and didn't install the injector clips (locking the injectors to the fuel rail). I was at Subway on one of those "tentative" trips and stopped to get a sandwich. Everyone stopped to look at the car and when I started it up, poof! Flames jumped about 3 feet out of the new GTII tail. Its a good thing one of the people looking at the car had a super-duper mega-gulp drink and threw it on the motor.
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I remember that story! I'm sure you can laugh now, but not at the time. I'll start in the hood and work my way out to longer and longer trips. Stuff like this sets your confidence level back a notch or two and it takes time to build it back up.

I'd say maybe if I left it stock, I'd be in better shape, but....

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Anyway, looks like it's fixed, so now I need to start taking it on those tenative trips away from home.

This is a true test of us die-hard DYI guys. When I built my car and experimented with designs or tunes, this was when I really had to leave my ego at the door. Like the time just after I converted to EFI and didn't install the injector clips (locking the injectors to the fuel rail). I was at Subway on one of those "tentative" trips and stopped to get a sandwich. Everyone stopped to look at the car and when I started it up, poof! Flames jumped about 3 feet out of the new GTII tail. Its a good thing one of the people looking at the car had a super-duper mega-gulp drink and threw it on the motor.
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I remember that story! I'm sure you can laugh now, but not at the time. I'll start in the hood and work my way out to longer and longer trips. Stuff like this sets your confidence level back a notch or two and it takes time to build it back up.

I'd say maybe if I left it stock, I'd be in better shape, but....
That's my first piece of advice when someone asks me my opinion on building their motor. Consider leaving it stock for a bit longer.

For perspective, my wife usually steps up and asks, what do you expect from a car built 30 years ago? And you're what, trying to double the hp?

Ouch...
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That's my first piece of advice when someone asks me my opinion on building their motor. Consider leaving it stock for a bit longer.

For perspective, my wife usually steps up and asks, what do you expect from a car built 30 years ago? And you're what, trying to double the hp?

Ouch...
My car is older than my wife... So, as far as she's concerned, the car's an antique.
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BTDT. Had two TR6's and a GT6+ years ago. You would think I'd have learned with the first one.
I had a couple of old Jaguars, and it just seemed the British would build them however they feeled that day. At least my Porsche shows some real thought in the design.......LOL
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For perspective, my wife usually steps up and asks, what do you expect from a car built 30 years ago? And you're what, trying to double the hp?

Ouch...
LOL..........I get the same thing, she has more patience than I do!
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The only problems I ever have with mine are complications or side effects from modifications. The "Pandora's Box" scenario. If I leave it alone it works perfectly, but that is no fun now is it.
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A fun thing about this board is realizing all the common experiences we all have had. Just being on Pelican implies that one does their own work, or at least some of it... and with the turbos in particular we're all self-selected to continue to pursue more power.
So Rocket's flirtation with throwing in the towel- we've ALL been there. Some have even done it for a while, and then come crawling back. And Jacob's post about an "ugly noise" on start up (good luck, man) can seem almost cosmically unfair. Co-workers / friends don't have any idea of the mental toll it can take. But we regroup, search the boards, take the thing apart again, and end up fixing it. Because there isn't another option and as a group, we couldn't quit if we wanted to!
I drove my car all day today and it's been in one of the "why we own these cars" modes. Brian's headers/exhaust, new shifting bushings, valves and tune just right. Washed it and vacuumed it, even. It was just a fantastic day.
I'm sure she'll turn around and bite me right above the ankle any day now. But today was not that day.
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"Today was a good day." Ha! Gotta love it. I took mine out several times today as well. 70* and sunny, it doesn't get any better than that. Worked on the LM-1 for a while before throwing in the towel. Any longer and my laptop would have been used as a hammer. Looks like I need to regroup and completely re-wire this thing as the signal noise just won't go away. There's lots of folks using the LM-x, it can't be that difficult ...
Time for another drive.
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Took my car for a spin today. I'm always a little nervous after I get out of the hood and head for the back roads, cuz I have to cross over a long azz narrow bridge.

Anyway, I finally get on on it and I'm like, D@MN!! This car has power! Drive awhile, crossing to big bridges and make it to where they are holding an SCCA autocross today. Guy in a 32 Ford rat rod parks next to me and after talking awhile he asks about my engine. We take a look and I immediately notice an o-ring sqeezing out between the intercooler and the pipe to the turbo. WTF? Oh yeah, too much boost cuz numb nuts here forgot to reinstall the boost line to the wastegate! No wonder it felt awesome! Got my handy factory tool kit out and fixed it. Still felt good with just one bar.

Great Day for driving and I had fun.
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Took my car for a spin today. I'm always a little nervous after I get out of the hood and head for the back roads, cuz I have to cross over a long azz narrow bridge.

Anyway, I finally get on on it and I'm like, D@MN!! This car has power! Drive awhile, crossing to big bridges and make it to where they are holding an SCCA autocross today. Guy in a 32 Ford rat rod parks next to me and after talking awhile he asks about my engine. We take a look and I immediately notice an o-ring sqeezing out between the intercooler and the pipe to the turbo. WTF? Oh yeah, too much boost cuz numb nuts here forgot to reinstall the boost line to the wastegate! No wonder it felt awesome! Got my handy factory tool kit out and fixed it. Still felt good with just one bar.

Great Day for driving and I had fun.
I guess that means you don't have the overboost switch hooked up...
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It's hooked up... To ground.

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I've been going through a similar situation while developing an intercooler. The up-pipe wants to remove itself from the turbo. I'm now in the habit of tossing all the tools I am using at the time into a bag and throwing them on the floorboard before I take off to ride.
Every time though is such a reward; this thing flies! Roasting the tires in second gear makes me laugh out loud, ha! Yesterday the o-rings stayed put. That problem is solved. Now on the the next potential issue yet to be seen that you wouldn't think would be a problem ...
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I don't think it's any easier not doing the work yourself, the frustration is just the same, maybe even worse as things are out of your control... Anyone thinking of modding these cars, be prepaired for major ups and equally major downs! Not too different to having a woman in your life
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