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jsveb 06-15-2010 11:59 AM

starting 930 search
 
Hi guys

I have been reading this part of the forum for years, and occasionally pitched in if I felt I could help.

I do not own a 911 turbo, but that is hopefully changing in a not to distant future.

In about 1.5 month I am moving to the US, and a 930 is going to be parked in the garage.

It is going to be a keeper, for me to take with me home after my four year stay.

My first choice is a 78-79 ROW, but other cars that just seem right might work as well. The reason for the earliest 3.3 is taxation once I get back. Difference in tax from 78 to 89 is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 20k-30k.
So I would rather spend the money on a awesome 78, than just giving my money to the government because I bought an 89.



I have read a lot (books and PP) so I know the basics about 911/930. Nothing like what some of you guys are displaying though.

I really hope you can help me with some no BS advice as I locate some cars.

The first one is up on craiglist:

PORSCHE 930 TURBO BLK/BLK LOW MILES

I think it is somewhat expensive. Looks good though.

Some info. from the owner:

9308800211 rebuilt on 7-21-04 6968 km since rebuild, work performed at Guys
Porsche . mahle pistons and cylinder set , heads sent to lesco, installed 911 sport
cams.

What do you think?

Thanks Jesper

Les Paul 06-15-2010 12:21 PM

Why would you have to pay so much more tax on a newer car? A 30k 79 or 30k 89? What am I missing?

jsveb 06-15-2010 01:09 PM

Well, I guess you are missing the essense of danish legislation regarding vehicle taxation.

Basically if I buy a car in the US: I pay the price of the car, ship it home, pay for shipping, import duties (+10%) plus VAT (+25%) and on top of all that you have to pay what is basically another 180% of what you allready paid. The 180% is however reduced according to the age of the vehicle until it has reached an age of 35 years. At which point it is considered a historic vehicle and the tax becomes negliable, but until then OMG.

I have got a Carrera 3.0 in pieces here at home - unrestored. It runs me in about 60k US dollars (exchange rate dependable). It is just crazy.

Jesper

Les Paul 06-15-2010 02:22 PM

Do you have to pay taxes like that if it is strictly a track car?

Garrison 06-15-2010 02:35 PM

If this car is of interest let me know as I am in Denver and would be more then happy to go take a look for you.

IMHO I think this car is overpriced, but then again I am still learning about these cars myself. I have seen cars with way more done to them, and as clean or cleaner then this car sell for much less in this market...

cole930 06-15-2010 06:31 PM

OH MY GOD !!!!!

Price of vehicle plus 180% and just think Ovomit is trying to turn us into another Denmark.

I now second the motion I heard this morning to use him as the plug for the oil spill pipe in the Gulf.

Cole

smurfbus 06-15-2010 11:17 PM

Buy an 78 and keep it as a track car for 4 years and then register it as a historic vehicle? I think that would mean you need to look for a car that has been kept stock though.

I would not care too much about miles if the engine and trans are rebuild or fresh.

jsveb 06-16-2010 11:00 AM

TAX vs track
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Paul (Post 5406027)
Do you have to pay taxes like that if it is strictly a track car?

If I don't put the car on the street (plates) and only use it on the track. I von't have to pay that much in tax

I know it is expensive, but it only an asking price. Just throwing some options out there. Thanks for your opinion.

Jesper

Les Paul 06-16-2010 12:22 PM

If you have any tracks nearby just track it. Probably safer in all respects. And it will save you a bundle of money.

jsveb 06-16-2010 12:34 PM

We don't have to many tracks in this area( in fact in the country) so I would certainly want to drive it :) on the streets

I am probably gonna track anyways :) :)
Though the Carrera 3.0 is going to be the hot rod.


Jesper

jsveb 06-16-2010 12:45 PM

Pp ppi :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 5406055)
If this car is of interest let me know as I am in Denver and would be more then happy to go take a look for you.

IMHO I think this car is overpriced, but then again I am still learning about these cars myself. I have seen cars with way more done to them, and as clean or cleaner then this car sell for much less in this market...

Thanks for the offer.

I will only ask you this if it is close to you, and not a burden to you. Please remember that I am still in Denmark (until august) so I am not able to jump on a good offer "just like that".

Back to the car:
I think it is quite expensive (too expensive), but it looks nice.
I do however think the dash looks kind of weird. It looks as if I can see some staples (spelling) at the center vent outlet - not sure.

What would a fair price be for an absolutely solid condition 930 like this be?

I don't mind mods, as long as it is the right ones, made in the right way.

The 930 that x98boardwell has listed looks simply awesome to me - except for the fact that it is an 1987. :(

The one that e p slick sold a while back also seeemed like a really good option to me.

Thanks again

Jesper

cellison 06-16-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 5406055)
If this car is of interest let me know as I am in Denver and would be more then happy to go take a look for you.

IMHO I think this car is overpriced, but then again I am still learning about these cars myself. I have seen cars with way more done to them, and as clean or cleaner then this car sell for much less in this market...

price very dependant on the miles. he indicates low miles (maybe i missed how many miles it hasc in the ad) but how many miles is low. if it has 30-40k miles, the asking price isn't bad based on the advertised condition.

David 06-16-2010 01:23 PM

$39K seems high for that car especially without a zillion pictures showing how original it is.

Come on, the engine was rebuilt!!! $30K max, probably more like $25K.

Garrison 06-16-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Come on, the engine was rebuilt!!!
Not to hi-jack, but just wondering why a rebuilt engine would lower the cost of a car?

David 06-16-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 5407973)
Not to hi-jack, but just wondering why a rebuilt engine would lower the cost of a car?

If the car is priced right it doesn't. If the car is priced as a pristine, low mile, original example it does.

Garrison 06-16-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

I will only ask you this if it is close to you, and not a burden to you. Please remember that I am still in Denmark (until august) so I am not able to jump on a good offer "just like that".
No worries as I am in the Denver metro area, and would be more then happy to go take a look for you. Just let me know.

jsveb 09-27-2010 06:49 PM

New car -YES...
 
After years of waiting -impatiently, it is here.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1285638065.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1285638176.jpg

I guess you could say it is a TWIN turbo :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1285638323.jpg

Thank you all for the all the support so far. Now the real fun begins.

I've been sitting all strapped in for years, so I'm ready for the slope.

Jesper

rhart 09-27-2010 07:39 PM

Very nice looking car.
Love the Cibies

jsveb 09-27-2010 08:12 PM

Yes, the Cibies are a nice touch.
This car supposedly has a very funny story to it, that U'll never guess. The PO being a part of it...

Can't wait to feel how it drives.

rhart 09-27-2010 08:15 PM

I heard he is a nut!


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