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20k engine rebuild (reasonable), tinkering wildy with boost on CIS (stupid), hey have fun with it.

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Old 09-29-2010, 02:19 PM
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20k engine rebuild (reasonable), tinkering wildy with boost on CIS (stupid), hey have fun with it.
So you think he spent $20k on the motor and then blindly cranked the boost up? isn't that a bit critical? you don't know the circumstances
Old 09-29-2010, 02:42 PM
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I think the thing is, that just because you can do something short-term to get HP or Torque, doesn't mean you should go down that road. For every extra HP you gain in some mod, you will lose some degree of reliability/wear and tear. How MUCH reliability you willing to sacrifice as a function of HP is anyones guess. When I was doing an internship between Andial and Jim Busby Racing in 1989-1991, a very high HP engine might go 2-3 races before a very expensive rebuild.

When I found my 911, it was a 1.5 year search to find an absolutely stock car in great condition, and go from there. When someone has already a "project" car, that's now for sale, it would be wise to tread very carefully before getting out that checkbook.

Well, I can say that I don't know the in's and out's of this vehicle, I can say it's possible to produce with particular modifications 600 on Jetronic.
I think there are assumptions that the vehicle must be modifed and in total distress. Not always.

1. A race engine is very different then a high powered street engine.

2. Most race engines are measured in life hours, each part that be is measured in hours of operation.

3. I agree on checking it over befor that checkbook goes out, but then a guy who's looking for a stock turbo /911 is not really in the same market. One would assume he or she knew what they were looking for in the first place, simply not on a whim.

4. I am not exactly sure one could call that car a project car, a modifed or tuned
example surely. Project is speculative term for this particular example. That car was not exactly molested.

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This is not like a pissing competition that someone lost- its just that people who know the system understand what it is physically capable of and know that 600hp is not within CIS's capability. Yea, none of us have gotten 600hp out of CIS- But you know why? IT CANT BE DONE...without a wet nitrous oxide setup .

Now that that is out of the way... The 380HP 930 in the listing is a very beautiful car. And it really looks like the guy who owned it really did "spare no expense." The Kokeln/B&B/K27/Etc... is a great setup and is in a clean car.
( haha ) Good sense of humor 930GT!

I am not having a pissing contest, I am just stating, a lot of people on forums
have this mantality that if it has not possible with in a forum that it's not possible.
Just because a few 930 guys have not made 600 here on Pelican. Sorry, the world is a big place.

The world is not bound by this forum.

Beyond that, I build and engineer management systems for a living, both the software and hardware as well delivery system too, amongest other things.

Although I think CIS is rather obsolete but amusing and fun, I prefure EFI anyday, ( With ) the right engine modifications, turbocharger or turbochargers, modifications to CIS and the CIS architecture it's possible. <- Note: I did not say with his modifications he could run power levels all day everyday, or even with the existing modifications. I simply said we should't assume it's impossible. <-



I gotta run, have a good weekend you guys.

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