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WANNA930 10-18-2010 09:54 AM

Early 930 mod vs stock value
 
Ok on an earlier post I posted some info and pics of a 77 930 that I just acquired. The car showed up nicer than I had thought as I had bought site unseen. The car runs and drives nice and cosmetically a 8?? I bought it with the idea of either flipping or doing full on build. It is just so original and an odd ball combo it has to be fairly rare???

Anyway, I know there is some talk about early 930 pricing following 911s going upward. I just am realistic and think it will be the real early stuff like the 75-76's. The problem is it will cost more to keep it stock than do some quick mods. Interior is that crazy green that will add about 40% to the cost to doing say a black or?


I have restored many cars and the problem is the detail parts that always kill you in the end. I would like to make a light weight tastefully modded car but don't want to miss the boat if the market really does swing. No body mods unless they are minor and for weight loss. I hate fake bumper fascias.


Anyway mod or leave stock?? Do you guys see values staying flat or jumping when the market kicks back?? Would you prefer a 100% stock car or do you look for a well built modded car when shopping????

timc 10-18-2010 12:35 PM

If you are looking for resale, i'd remain stock. I don't think you'll get the money back that you put in for mods, unless maybe the car was free...

When I was looking for a 930, I only looked at stock cars.

mark houghton 10-18-2010 02:14 PM

Mod mod mod....my advice, to whatever level you are comfortable with or can afford.

This forum is almost "mod central", where many aren't so concerned about resale value vs. owning and driving a car that runs at it's potential. I didn't buy mine as an investment and fully intend on keeping it for as long as I can drive it. Yes, I bought a "stock" car, but little tell-tale signs say that it was not stock it's entire life and simply was returned to stock when sold...which is probably what I would do if I ever sold.

For you, though, it appears that re-sale value is your driver so by all means keep it completely stock.

voitureltd 10-18-2010 03:28 PM

My opinion is leave it as built. Modded cars that were done by name builders when new/ or near new ( Andial, RUF, Alan Johnson, Kremer, D P Motorsports among others ) already get relatively big money and will have a better chance of a good investment as the newly initiated Porsche or nostalgic buyer will pursue these with great passion ( as with other manufacturers hot models from the past), if provided with good provenance. As years go buy I will try to aquire and keep the one(s) that drive the best no matter who built it, That being said current builders using current technology and build quality can come up with better performing cars ( many such builders on this forum ) however some just want the old school hotties. There are an awful lot of chop jobs floating around and being sold that will leave a bad taste for future buyers, so unless the buyer really knows what he is doing he will probably stay away from something an unnamed builder puts together. So...I,d say buy one that is already quality built now as good ones are still pretty cheap compared to what it will cost to build one. I personally like most modded 930's and parallel the thought to the cobras, an original 427 worth 7 figures plus is seldom used but some of the continuation cars with current build stuff can out perform the originals, at a fraction of the cost and are enjoyed on a regular basis as opposed the the collectors jobs ( along with their owners ) that just sit. So.......... take your pick there is a always a butt for every seat. I like to drive , back roads, freeway, track days and take to concours. That is why you need to get more than one if the opportunity and good fortune come your way ( 30 year Mortgages are 4.25% now to refinance )

racer 10-18-2010 03:47 PM

The market for 930s will soon be collector driven.. that mean low miles.. original condition. The more original the better. Restored to original condition would be next.. then its a crap shoot. Modified.. 934/935 clones... etc. If you didn't buy the car as an "investment" than have at it. Just don't expect the same "big money" as the original cars will command when you want to sell it.

WANNA930 10-18-2010 05:26 PM

Resale isn't the main focus but I do not tend to keep my cars too long so it is always in the back of my head. I would rather mod a more common car but I think I will keep it stock with some cool touches.

I am going to do a little research on the Platinum/green color combo to see how rare it actually is.

voitureltd 10-18-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by racer (Post 5622290)
The market for 930s will soon be collector driven.. that mean low miles.. original condition. The more original the better. Restored to original condition would be next.. then its a crap shoot. Modified.. 934/935 clones... etc. If you didn't buy the car as an "investment" than have at it. Just don't expect the same "big money" as the original cars will command when you want to sell it.

............. Your probably right especially if the "same old same old" collectors get control, after they made wallflowers of some other pretty nice cars. I personally hope they stay away unless they get enlightened of how much fun cars can be other than just look at. They have amazed me for decades. Stock 930s are nice, however they were originally conceived to be so much more than that. A safe bet is a bone stock, never driven much original, but how much fun is that?? OR of course a real 934 or 935.

oilonly 10-18-2010 06:52 PM

I have a bone stock 930 with 23,000 miles on it. But I am considering getting the bolt on upgrades pretty soon. Brian's exhaust, Fabspeed intercooler,k27. I can't see how these bolt-ons will lower the value of the car. Especially since I plan on boxing the old stock parts if I ever sell it and the new buyer wants to bring it back to stock.

voitureltd 10-18-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by oilonly (Post 5622597)
I have a bone stock 930 with 23,000 miles on it. But I am considering getting the bolt on upgrades pretty soon. Brian's exhaust, Fabspeed intercooler,k27. I can't see how these bolt-ons will lower the value of the car. Especially since I plan on boxing the old stock parts if I ever sell it and the new buyer wants to bring it back to stock.

Now that sounds like more fun. Also you can't see the innards that can bump up the performance by 100 horses either ( or just drop the motor and install a modded one if that's in your budget) that way it will always be a low mi motor. A slippery slope for sure but your way of bolt on stuff if kept otherwise pristine will improve your driving pleasure, for sure.

oilonly 10-18-2010 07:10 PM

Plus the wevo shifter Tony. It's all this site's fault, I would have never known about all this stuff if I never joined here.

mark houghton 10-18-2010 08:06 PM

That's what's so amazing about these cars...you can get stellar performance just bolting stuff on and never cracking into the engine. A bolt on here, a little tuning mastery there, and you've got a car that positively kicks ass against stock and almost anything else on the road. And it doesn't necessarily mean any additional wear and tear on the car, depending on how you drive it. Save the parts and if the market is right and you're ready to sell, hook it all back up to stock.


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