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cole930 11-28-2010 08:07 PM

The Old One could use some help !!!!
 
Can anyone help me with a some pics of the AC brackets on 79-85 Euro 930. I
have the brackets but can't seem to put together where and how they attach. I have searched and found nothing that helps. I have manuals and the Pet and still nothing helps. This is truley an instance where pictures would be worth a thousand words.

Thanks in advance !!!!!!
Cole

Reaper930 11-28-2010 08:19 PM

Sorry Cole, if I had AC I'd be more than happy to help ya...hope someone on the board can chime in soon for you!

jwasbury 11-28-2010 08:26 PM

Photos of my '79...its a US model, not Euro, but perhaps they are the same?

http://asbury.smugmug.com/By-Land/Po...89_DJP6U-L.jpg
http://asbury.smugmug.com/By-Land/Po...18_njFxa-L.jpg
http://asbury.smugmug.com/By-Land/Po...53_ofu8V-L.jpg
http://asbury.smugmug.com/By-Land/Po...77_4VdM9-L.jpg

cole930 11-28-2010 08:42 PM

Jacob

YOU DA MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS !!!!!!

Cole



Gabe


Real men don't need no stinking AC, it slowes you down !!!!

I'm transforming the bracket to a 934 type mount for the CIS to shorten the
turbo intake runner.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1291009267.jpg

Cole

MikeD930 11-29-2010 03:58 AM

Looking fwd to see your CIS relocation. Oh BTW, isn't this forum great!?! That's the 1st time I saw metal bracket AC assembly. I thought all AC brackets were aluminum.

cole930 11-29-2010 07:58 AM

Hey Mikie !!!!

Hope thing are going well buddy. The calender looks like it should be a big hit.
Great pics.

Gracie told me to tell you HI !!!!!!

Those old steel AC brackets are the reason the cars all leaned on the passenger side. I took the da-- thing off 20 years ago and could find nothing on
how it goes back on. I'm actually using the original to get mounting hole location
holes. I have a friend that's going to fab one out of ALU. I should have sent it to you and you could have taken it to work.

The best to you and the family my friend !!!!

Cole

jwasbury 11-29-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cole930 (Post 5698820)
Those old steel AC brackets are the reason the cars all leaned on the passenger side.

Exaggerate much Cole?

If anything, the weight of the steel bracket (not much, really) may help to counteract the weight of the turbocharger, which as you know is on the driver's side:D

cole930 11-29-2010 09:22 AM

Jacob,

Excellent point my friend. Ends up being a counterbalance, all this time it was just superb German Engineering.

RarlyL8 11-29-2010 09:57 AM

These cars came with AC?

Cole, I relocated the CIS on a twin turbocharged engine a few years back. Made my own mounting brackets. The only requirement I used was that the air metering plate sit parallel to the ground when in the resting/closed position, and I'm not so sure that is mandatory.

gsmith660 11-29-2010 12:38 PM

I cant help much but looks intresting I would not think the metering plate be level because it is rarely level while driving the car. Good luck I would try some kind of trick billet mount.

jsveb 11-29-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RarlyL8 (Post 5699025)
These cars came with AC?

Cole, I relocated the CIS on a twin turbocharged engine a few years back. Made my own mounting brackets. The only requirement I used was that the air metering plate sit parallel to the ground when in the resting/closed position, and I'm not so sure that is mandatory.

I am asking this just for you to educate me, and maybe me understand the CIS a little better, So OT - sorry in advance...

If there was a difference in how the metering plate would react, that would mostly be because gravity now "influencing" the plate differently and the resistance in the travel, again due to gravity has changed. If this is the case, can't one not just adjust the WUR the regain the correct CP? etc.

Jesper

RarlyL8 11-29-2010 12:55 PM

That's true but I was thinking about when the car is sitting and the fuel pressure bleeds off, a picky point.

jsveb 11-29-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RarlyL8 (Post 5699361)
That's true but I was thinking about when the car is sitting and the fuel pressure bleeds off, a picky point.

OK, Just trying to learn.

Thanks

Jesper

MikeD930 11-29-2010 01:34 PM

Hey Cole!

Ya, will you give Gracie a dog treat and pat her head for me?!? SmileWavy

Thanks for your comments on the calendar.

About the weight of the AC balancing out the turbo...isn't your turbo going to be centered behind the engine??? I think so; therefore, disregard what others said about the car leaning! ;)

Looking forward see your completed Old Sled and to cruise with ya to P2O next year (it's usually at the end of July).

cole930 11-29-2010 04:29 PM

Mike:

I'll be ready in July !!!!!


Brian & Jesper:


This same CIS has been used on hundreds of different cars and in hundreds of different locations. I think as long as you keep it reasonably level and don't mount it upside down it will be fine. Besides that I have an edge, I'm also installing the "Magic Mystery Velocity Cone"


Cole


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