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Marty:

Man that would be killer !!!!!!!!! I don't have a feel for how it's going to fit yet but I'll get a rear bumper dug out and see if I can get some idea. My car is an 80 ROW but they should be pretty much all the same. If you could just make the cookie cutter tip I could get Arlo to weld it on once I get a zork made and clocked. That's really great of you to offer as I had given up on finding one. Just let me know how much you need and your PayPal address. I'll be forever grateful.

THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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WOW, nice home-grown fab work, Mr.C !!! Like you, I do my fabricating with cardboard mockups, carbide wheels, die grinders and files, so I can relate - I'm very impressed !!!!!
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Thanks and thats cool I would suggest powdercoat for the bracket for a long lasting finish you know it would look cool with smoke chrome powder on it.
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Ron: Thanks man !!!! When I was 14 I shoveled coal for $2 a ton and it teaches you not to pay to have the things done you can learn to do yourself. Those old lessons learned things stick with you and 53 years later you actually find yourself enjoying
just doing it yourself.

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Great work for an old guy - even if it is a hairbrained project.

Your really starting to show us younger guys up. I only sent you the drawings a few weeks ago and now you have already outpaced me in terms of progress.

Hopefully the dimensions worked for you. Keep up the outstanding work and updates. I need all the inspiration I can get.

Cheers,
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Richard,

Your RSR build sets the bar so high no one can come close. If not for you and your generosity I'd still be scratching my head.

" YOU ARE THE MAN "

And Thank You !!!!!
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Cole!!!
Wow...nice job on the "hairbrained project"! I hope everything else will go as smoothly as this one until you get your white beast up and running. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you will complete it and get it running before P2O. I'm looking forward to see you again. Even if you don't get it done in time for P2O we can always meet up half way for lunch and cruise later in the summer/fall.

Now, regarding the cookie cutter exhaust. I know nothing about it...does it sound different? What does it do to performance if any? All I know is that it looks trick!
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I think the cookie cutters were an attempt to tune the extractor effect to a cetain rpm. Isn't the middle tube of the cookie cutter actually tapered like a sort of reverse cone? This would change the resonant frequency of the exhaust pulses, IIRC.
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Cole, I just want to express my admiration for the way you do things.

Skills and knowledge combined with straight forward no BS execution- NICE.
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Cole, I just want to express my admiration for the way you do things.

Skills and knowledge combined with straight forward no BS execution- NICE.
I will second that you inspire me!
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Man.....don't check in for a few days a look what I miss!

Nice work 'Ol Guy' Looking forward to see the final setup!
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Cole-

PM me your address. I don't need to fab the cookie cutter, I have one.
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DONE DEAL !!!!!




Turbo Installed, Scavenger return line made and on, making up Turbo feed line now, and test fitting the Turbo intake pipe so we can locate where the CIS needs to sit.
(That's the next hairbraind project)




Mikie:

Looking forward to seeing you buddy. I'lll be cutting it close but I'm doing my best to make the date. But worst case we'll get together regardless.


Flieger:

Intersting thoery on the cookie cutter. I actually tried to find some information on them when I first started looking for one.
Maybe someone will chime in and let us know.

For you who don't know Flieger he is the resident "Suspension God" this man knows more about setting up a Porsche suspension than anyone needs to know. Knows his s--- and always willing to help so if your looking for help he's the go to guy.


Jesper and G Man:

Hey you two, thanks for the kind words. You have to understand' I'm just older than dirt and have made every mistake known to man. I was just lucky enough to learn a little from them. Like I said earlier " Even a blind hog will find an acorn now and then"


Win:

Where have you been bud? Haven't heard much from you lately. Give us an update on what you've been up to. I have missed your input, your opinions are always a real assett and add needed sence to the confusion.

Marty:

Man, I can't believe this after 20 years, and you'll never know how much it's appreciated !!!!

David Cole
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You ought to go EDIS it would be so easy to set it up with this rig.
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G Man:

Unfortunatly us old people are set in our ways and I hate all that high tech s---. You have to remember I took my Statics final in College with a slide rule. The MSD Programmable is about as high tech as I want to go. I realy like the old school stuff. I actually wouldn't trade the sled for a brand new turbo.

What are you running for ignition now.

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Cole I am running EDIS right now and the timing is so stable it is scary mine is controlled through the EFI ecu and is very simple and allows adjustible boost retard since you want to stay with CIS you could get a megajolt box to control your EDIS I would be happy to try and get a advance map for you. I agree with you I would not give up my old car for the new ones ever.
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I always thought the cookie cutter was a flame suppresor?

But then again, Im noht dat smahhht 8-/...

Cole, that looks f'n tits! And nipples, for that matter!!! Awesome!
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Paul,

Thanks a million. Nice to see things finally comming together. It's been a long tough road getting here.

Never thought about flame surpression, could very well be exactly what it was used for.

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Around 25 years ago I asked Kevin at Gunnar Porsche what those "cookie cutter" things in the end of the approximately 1-2 foot long tapered megaphone exhausts on the old porsche racecars were for.
I never saw them in any other cars exhaust pipe and I didn't know what it would do for performance by looking at it so it was a curiosity.

I think he said they helped improve exhaust scavenging from the long tapered megaphone tailpipes they used on those cars.
Maybe they reduced the chance of flames popping out the tailpipe on deceleration or maybe they reduced exhaust turbulance at the end of the tapered megaphone exhaust making it scavange better, I don't know.

You see little ones in some Borla dual tailpipes but I think those are just for looks.
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G Man,

I am always interested in looking at the timing curves people are running in these old sleds. My MSD is completely programmable timing curve and boost retard I use the Snow WMI to control any detonation issues and the combination works great. I call it the SEOP System. Simple Enough for Old People.

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