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Mikie;

Sorry about missing your E mail. I've been managing a large Batch & Hold
project at GM FWA. Been working 12-14 hrs a day for the last 28 days, barely
anytime to sleep and eat.

Would love to see you and just give me a call on my cell 260-570-6914
and we'll hook up. I'll look forward to seeing you and meeting the boss !!!!

Cole
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Old 08-10-2013, 11:10 AM
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Well Cole all I can say is this is gonna be a hard one to beat it is classic old school beauty. I have got my ideas on what I want to do but have not finalized there is an ad for champion motorsports that has a very exotic black turbo that has some very cool flares that I would like to figure out how to do but it would be very difficult. I have got to figure out how to keep the rear brake vents because I think they are instrumental in keeping my oil temps very low, on a 100 deg. day my oil temp never gets above 200. I still want to do the rauh welt bolt on flare thing and want to shave off some weight so I will be going with fiberglass front fenders and hood unless that will throw my weight dist. so far off that I change the driving chara. of the car to much. I need to start a thread to get some ideas about that. I will also be doing my own painting this time.
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:27 PM
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The Old Guy Is Not Dead Yet !!!!!

Well, I should start this with a formal apology for falling off the face of the
earth for the last few months. I'm sorry, I just burned out with the pace of the
4 Month GM gig, my old age catching up with me, and the Sled dying on me.

At the end of the Sled Saga the Old Girl just quit on me. When I flamed
it on for the first time it started immediatly and ran like a top. The weather
sucked so I never got a chance to get it out but I started it several days in
a row just to listen to it, and then it just quit. It would not start with the
exception of a big dose of starter fluid and even then it would not stay
running.

Doing the non stop 84 hour weeks at GM kicked my ass and I was
frustrated and greatly dissapointed that I didn't have much time to work
on the Sled issue. We were working 7 days a week and there just wasn't
any time. We finaly got things at GM to the point where we had a weekend
off so I started going through the Sled. Checked Power, wiring, fuel, plug
wires, plugs, timing, MSD program, everything I could think of. No go !!!!!

Now, before I put the Old Girl together I sent the CIS and new BL WUR
out to Larry at Flow Tech. to go through everything and set it up on the
flow bench so I wouldn't have any issues on start up. I had a new
Accumulator, Filter, Fuel Pumps, and replaced all the old fuel lines with new
braided lines from the fuel tank to the injectors. Injectors were all cleaned,
checked, and balanced.

After repeated attempts to get the Old Slut to run I determined, by
pulling the plugs, that it was a fuel issue. Now, knowing that I had done
everything possible to prevent a fuel related start up issue, I was really
lost. I ordered a CIS gauge set, and when I checked the cold control
pressure it was as high as the system pressure. I Pulled the WUR and
Fuel Distributor and sent them back to Larry, as I figured it was a fuel
pressure regulator issue.

With the WUR and Fuel Distributor off to Larry I pulled every fuel
lines off from the injectors to the tank. I drained the tank and strained
the fuel, I plugged the fuel tank and return lines and add the strained
fuel. I checked the fuel pumps and check valves. I blew out each fuel
line and starting at the fuel tank reinstalled the fuel line from the tank
to the front pump and ran the pump to insure I had correct fuel
pressure. I installed the rear fuel pump attached the fuel line from the
front pump and rechecked the fuel pressure, good, I installed the
accumulator and filter and rechecked the fuel pressure, good. I
attached the fuel feed line from the filter and made sure it was clear.
I went back to the tank and pulled the plug out of the fuel return line
and started to refit the return line. The rubber return line from the
tunnel fitting to the fuel tank return seemed to be pinched between
the alumimum cross brace and the body. I replaced the line and
rerouted it to eliminate the pinch. I blew out and reinstalled the
return line from the rear of the tunnel to the fuel distributor and the
accumulator.

I got my fuel distributor back from Larry (No issues with it or
the WUR) reinstalled it and blew out all the remaining lines back
to the injectors. I hooked up the fuel and return lines to the Fuel
head. In an effort to make sure the return line wasn't pinched at
the front crossmember I put the fule line in a glass jar and turned
on the pumps and had good flow back to the tank. I attached the
return line back to the tank and flamed it on !!!! Still will not
start and cold control pressure was still the same as system
pressure 110 psi.

I went back to the tank to check for that return line pinch again
and when I pulled the return line off at the tank fuel blew all over
from the return line but nothing comming out of the tank return
fitting. BINGO !!!!! The return line inside the tank is plugged !!!!

Well the tank is out and at the local shop to be cut open and
repaired. All this grief over a plugged return line inside the tank.
I thought this one would be a good post as it is something I would
have never even thought about.

So the stubborn, vane, won't ask for help Old Guy is back in the game !!!!!!

Cole
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No joke....GREAT WERK!!!!!!

I know I would of thrown rocks at my car and not touched it until 2014.

Congrats again!!!

Walt
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Nice find Cole. That's a bugger of a problem to have.
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Nice work Cole
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i think we are all guilty of looking at the difficult things first, dwelling on them, and totally missing the simple and sometimes obvious things causing the current delimna
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Walt, xbm, Uncle, Vas

Guy's, I love to take credit for great work but I actually discovered it by
accident, but I'll still call it a win !!!!


This one was a real pisser to figure out because when it first started fuel
would return sometimes and at times I would get nothing. I have a large
Frankenstein style bump on my forehead from banging my head on the car
over this thing. I tried to fish through the return tube to unplug it but
whatever the obstruction is will not budge.

I've taken it to a guy that was recommended to me that has been repairing
fuel tanks for 40 years. He told me that as soon as it starts plugging it will
continue to pack more debris behind it until it's impossible to remove it. My
tank looked very good inside and so he is going to cut a section out of the top
and replace the return tube. Will be a couple weeks before he can get to it
but it will be done right.


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X Ma:

Your absolutely correct, I went through absolutely everything before I
found it and then I found it by accident. As I was putting everything
back where it belongs I decided to recheck the rubber return line from
tunnel fitting to the return fitting. When I took the rubber line off at the
tank no fuel came out.

Cole
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Cole...bud....if you didn't have intimate knowledge of these rigs, you would still be stranded. Your process of elimination speaks volumes. So freaking happy you found the SOB'ing culprit!!!
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" With perseverance and a little sweet oil you could f--- a cat"

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and here I was getting ready to fly out for your funeral and tell your wife I was your long lost son you fathered on that lost weekend in Vegas.... Guess I'll have to wait a few years until you leave me that beauty in your will !!!!
I'll call you soon old guy, lot's to fill you in on !!
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Sitting here on the weekend wondering what happened to you Cole, but never got around to posting. Never did see an after the fact report on how your motor worked, hope you get some miles in before snow.
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Bait:

Good to hear from you, how is Sophi and the new kid? It would be
nice to catch up on things and I look forward to hearing from you.

Jesper:

Thanks Buddy i have been needing some encouragement and I
appreciate your kindness, I have been needing a little lately. .

Mr. Jim:

Good to hear from you and just know we will be on the road soon
even if it's cold out, the Old Girl loves that cold air.

79 930:

When I was 14 I wasn't sure about it either but over the years
I have thought of it many times and it has always kept me going when
I felt like quiting. And I always get a chuckle out of it.

The 3 months of hell with the GM Project and my bitter disappointment
about the Sled issue really took the wind out of my sails. I took about 4
weeks off and did nothing and then I felt like I was just sitting here
waiting to die so I decided to get off my ass. My stubbornness just
wouldn't let me quit so I had a serious ass kicking meeting of the minds
with the Sled and we started over. We got serious and came up with and
answer so now we are just waiting a couple weeks to get the tank back.
I promise to keep everyone in touch and up to date and I will post
a video when we are up and going.

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Cole, care to elaborate about your GM work? I'm sure a few of us motorheads are curious what kind of work you are involved in.
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Jim:

I was working at my old job and we were contracted to do a Batch & Hold
at GM Ft. Wayne Assembly on the new 2014 truck build out. We set up an
independent QC audit of all the new truck builds after they passed Pay Point.
The audit was an independent audit of build quality and a continuous
improvement path back through plant quality Dept. to the plant floor.
We were responsible for the inspection, auditing, and repair of any
issues found. We then reported out to each Dept. and made sure proper
corrective action was put in place on the line.
At full production we were doing 1500 units a day 24/7

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Cole

It shows once more:

Man proposes, God disposes (not that I am believing, but all the good german idioms sounds silly in english...)

However I'll try:

Firstly, things happen differently, and secondly, than expected

Ask me how I know (or read my present thread)

At least you find out and your sled will be back on track soon. So I can't wait to see more inspiring posts from you!
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Welcome back. Tank return line - one more thing for the "What could it be??" list. THANKS for sharing all of this agony so the rest of us can learn from it.
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