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fletcher0780 07-20-2011 06:55 AM

reassembly snafu - guess what I forgot
 
So, I've been working on my EFI project: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/583599-my-efi-project.html 3rd gear syncro repair, and valve seals since January. Last week I hit a major milestone with the re-installation of my engine/transmission. This brings us to yesterday, while working on some EFI wiring, I hit the starter wire with power and heard the starter spin, but not engage. Can you guess what I forgot during assembly yet?

Ring gear: ding, ding, ding

So, now I am faced with my 2nd engine drop in six months, or perhaps attempting to separate the trans with the engine mounted. Any suggestions?

IMR-Merlin 07-20-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fletcher0780 (Post 6147011)
So, I've been working on my EFI project: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/583599-my-efi-project.html 3rd gear syncro repair, and valve seals since January. Last week I hit a major milestone with the re-installation of my engine/transmission. This brings us to yesterday, while working on some EFI wiring, I hit the starter wire with power and heard the starter spin, but not engage. Can you guess what I forgot during assembly yet?

Ring gear: ding, ding, ding

So, now I am faced with my 2nd engine drop in six months, or perhaps attempting to separate the trans with the engine mounted. Any suggestions?

I forgot paper towels in a cylinder once when doing a head gasket on a Isuzu Trooper in the 90's. It made pretty confetti when I pulled the plugs to try and diagnose a cylinder that had low compression and a no start. :eek:

fletcher0780 07-20-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin (Post 6147104)
I forgot paper towels in a cylinder once when doing a head gasket on a Isuzu Trooper in the 90's. It made pretty confetti when I pulled the plugs to try and diagnose a cylinder that had low compression and a no start. :eek:

Well, at least I'm not the only one who makes these mistakes. Let's hope this will be the worst problem I face during this project.

Ken911 07-20-2011 08:23 AM

It's actually faster to pull the engine and tranny together than separating it in the car. Makes lining up the clutch fork easy instead of almost impossible in the car.

fletcher0780 07-20-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken911 (Post 6147123)
It's actually faster to pull the engine and tranny together than separating it in the car. Makes lining up the clutch fork easy instead of almost impossible in the car.

Thats what I was afraid of.

IMR-Merlin 07-20-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fletcher0780 (Post 6147204)
Thats what I was afraid of.

I'm about 2 hours away, good with tools if you need an extra set of hands. SmileWavy

I am cheap too, just have a few Bud Lights in the fridge for after work.

fletcher0780 07-20-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin (Post 6147341)
I'm about 2 hours away, good with tools if you need an extra set of hands. SmileWavy

I am cheap too, just have a few Bud Lights in the fridge for after work.

Appreciate the offer, I've got a friend to help me tomorrow morning. May be up your way (Lee, NH) in the near future to get some dyno tuning by my ECU/ harness supplier (EFI express). If it's not far from you, and the timing works, you can watch the show and have a drink or three :)

mark houghton 07-20-2011 01:01 PM

Doesn't that just piss you off? I've done similar things, usually the result of having a beer in one hand and a wrench in the other. If you drink, the key is to start drinking as you start the project and don't stop. Never start drinking in the middle of a project, or don't drink at all during it. A person must be either stone sober, or have an inebriated mindset throughout in order to keep continuity of thought processes. Sage words of flawed wisdom....:)

Many moons ago, after rebuilding and reinstalling a T-90 tranny into my '69 CJ5, I forgot to install some sort of bearing retainer plate on the input shaft bearing housing. When letting the clutch out, the thing would slam/bang back out of gear. Had to pull the tranny and discovered my simple mistake.

timc 07-20-2011 01:06 PM

did something similar on a 77S a long time ago, after getting the eng/trans back in the car, began to adjust the clutch, realized I had the fork in backwards, and it was around 12pm at night. So, I sat there, not wanting it hanging over my head all night, I just bit the dust and went back at it. Finished up around 3am with car running, went to bed and slept late the next day!. So yes, I would pull them as a unit. You can have it out and back in in under 4hrs, and be done with it.

IMR-Merlin 07-20-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fletcher0780 (Post 6147482)
Appreciate the offer, I've got a friend to help me tomorrow morning. May be up your way (Lee, NH) in the near future to get some dyno tuning by my ECU/ harness supplier (EFI express). If it's not far from you, and the timing works, you can watch the show and have a drink or three :)

I am in Manchester about 25 min from Lee and I drove through it yesterday. Let me know when you come up.

Brendon

Flat6pac 07-20-2011 02:53 PM

Pull them together, its too hard to get the fingers in the TOB when you reinstall the engine.
I thought you might have forgotten the cylinder tins....
Bruce

E-man930 07-20-2011 06:39 PM

"I thought you might have forgotten the cylinder tins...."

Gasp - don't even joke about that! :) Good luck bro!

krasuskyp 07-20-2011 08:31 PM

Stevo-

Dayum dude - sorry to hear that, that sucks huge hairy nads. You're in good company unfortunately 8-/... makes me feel better tho 8-).

I'm @ the beach for rest of week but can help you when I get home Sat if you need, just ring me and I'm there (if you'd like the blind helping the blind, that is)...

Brendon, I'm @ Hampton this week, and for 2 more come next Fri - LMK if you'd like to gtg for a cold one or something sometime...

9dreizig 07-20-2011 09:35 PM

wow you must feel like a complete idiot!!! How do I know ? well I did the exact same thing a few months ago and that's how I felt!! LOL

NY930 07-20-2011 09:53 PM

Gee Guys,
Do you these things ever happen to my very well paid mechanic when he's working on my car? If so, do you think he eats the extra hours or do I get banged for the extra hours?
Just wondering . . .


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