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DZug 935 Chassis Brace $650

We worked out a better method of production to pass on our savings to our customers THE HARDCORE 930 ENTHUSIASTS! From $885 to $650

So in that spirit we dropped our price to as low as we can go now to give back to the community. Its the same hardcore brace THAT WE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK IF IT DOES NOT TRANSFORM THE TURN IN AND CORNERING SPEEDS that we have been offering in the past we just partnered up with a more efficient fabricator.

And unlike some of the other guys around here - YES a chassis brace SHOULD transform your handling, and if their products can't "support" their reputation alone - whats the point?



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Old 09-13-2011, 11:12 AM
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There is nothing on a stock 911 chassis to bolt that to in the front.
Do you make and sell or include strong steel brackets that get welded into the front corners to mount it?
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Fairman,
all mounting brackets are included, no welding required!
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To piggy back on what Pete said we made strong aluminum mounts that bolt to the front of the chassis in the corners of the tub.

We have tested in a 911, 930, 934 & 935 chassis and all have had the same striking results.

This mod is 100% reversible - it makes the front end pointy and the turn in is night and day.

Again we fully backup with a 100% money back offer.
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watch the installation video ...

DZ Chassis Brace Install Video - Car Videos on StreetFire

sound quality stinks but you'll get the point...
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Do these work in a car with the ST/RSR brackets?

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Unfortunately they do not...
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Gabe,

Will this fit in a car with a FuelSafe 27 gallon tank (the one made for are cars not just a tank stuffed in there)?
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Out of curiosity, how do you get the spare out?
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Jones, on the fitment of the fuel safe cell, you need a full 2" clearance below the fender line as the X stays right with that. If you could email me some side shots with measurements from the top of the fender liner to the tank I could make a better call. Please email me at reaper@d-zug.us

As far as getting to the spare tire the leg over the tire has a joint in it like the factory cars had to access the battery and oil tank lines.

You simply use the allen bolts on the joint and unbolt from the front fender corner and voila in a few minutes you have complete access to the spare tire!



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Ok, I have a question too.

I watched the video, but in my office could not hear the audio very well, but it seems that you need to chisel out the little sheet metal lips from the hood seal support piece.

Easy enough & no big deal.

However what do you do with the hood release cable tube??

Furthermore, I couldn't care less about access to any worthless collapsible spare tire, so any cost savings for eliminating the removable bar section?

Mark

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I am a bit afraid if the solution of bolting the brackets in the front cornes with the flare bolts is a good idea. Seems a bit weak to me... As far I can see on the pics, you are using two bolts for each bracket, stock body screws?

Further, how do you compensate different angles of camber at the strut brace bracket, there is no articulation point I can see?
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This is not for camber adjusted cars - eventually we plan to work a camber adjustment system into the brace but for now, its for a stock camber setup.

Well the front bolt solution is to keep transferring load pressure on the nose of the car, there will not be extreme loads put on these brackets but their ability to tie the chassis together is what makes all the difference. There is simply no other way to keep it reversible with another mounting method. But as listed prior, this setup does work as many can testify to, and we offer a 100% money back offer with the brace. If you don't think it lives up to our billing, send it back for a full refund no strings.

If you want a more permanent solution we can give you steel plates to weld in to the front corners at a slight increase in cost.

I designed the method of attachment and can say a few engineers looked at the setup with no suggestions. If you have any input i'd be more than happy to learn from your experiences! Email or post up at funfgruppen.com/forums - my email is reaper@d-zug.us
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Mark,

Actually all you chisel away is factory undercoating that is sometimes around the top of the strut tower - there is still factory paint underneath so it's just making a flat surface to mount the plate. Usually it's a small amount that takes just a few minutes to remove.

Concerning the hood cable, there is one spot weld at the front on the drivers side that you will need to break via hammer & chisel.
Once you pop the weld you can move the tube out of the way slightly to make room for the bracket.

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Ok, I have a question too.



I watched the video, but in my office could not hear the audio very well, but it seems that you need to chisel out the little sheet metal lips from the hood seal support piece.



Easy enough & no big deal.



However what do you do with the hood release cable tube??



Furthermore, I couldn't care less about access to any worthless collapsible spare tire, so any cost savings for eliminating the removable bar section?



Mark
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To add, you only break the spot weld for the trunk release cable on the early cars...In the 80's porsche went to a plastic piece that simply needs to be moved out of the way.
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Hey Reaper930,

Thanks for the info, saving my $ as we speak. Have 8 Craig's list ads running, getting rid of clutter.....
But I need to do a complete clutch first...eerrgghhh!

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I'm interested in one - but after I get the car back on the road. Any pulley news?
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Pullys are at anodizing shop and will be out in the next few days!
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